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<DIV>hi,</DIV>
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<DIV>If you considering to move to Morocco you are always welcome, I was
considering to go back , but I’m still stuck here in Belguim for years
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<DIV>I started a few days ago to adjust the new region ,they are reduces from 16
to 12,the mapping is finished and i hope they are ok.</DIV>
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<DIV>b.t.w: the only resource or reference for caidats and cercles (there are no
others on my opinion)that i have for mapping are this:</DIV>
<DIV><A
title=http://www.pncl.gov.ma/fr/EspaceJuridique/DocLib/D%C3%A9cret%20fixant%20la%20liste%20des%20cercles,des%20ca%C3%AEdats%20et%20des%20communes%20urbaines%20et%20rurales.pdf
href="http://www.pncl.gov.ma/fr/EspaceJuridique/DocLib/D%C3%A9cret%20fixant%20la%20liste%20des%20cercles,des%20ca%C3%AEdats%20et%20des%20communes%20urbaines%20et%20rurales.pdf">http://www.pncl.gov.ma/fr/EspaceJuridique/DocLib/D%C3%A9cret%20fixant%20la%20liste%20des%20cercles,des%20ca%C3%AEdats%20et%20des%20communes%20urbaines%20et%20rurales.pdf</A></DIV>
<DIV>and of cource the wikipedia pages in french :</DIV>
<DIV>example:<A
style='href: "http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_de_Taourirt"'
target=_blank>http://fr.wikipedia.<U></U>org/wiki/Province_de_Taourirt</A> under
Découpage territorial</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>best regards</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=john.freed.paris@gmail.com
href="mailto:john.freed.paris@gmail.com">John Freed</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:39 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ali.zaroili@gmail.com
href="mailto:ali.zaroili@gmail.com">Ali</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=fred.rodrigo@gmail.com
href="mailto:fred.rodrigo@gmail.com">Frédéric Rodrigo</A> ; <A
title=talk-ma@openstreetmap.org
href="mailto:talk-ma@openstreetmap.org">talk-ma@openstreetmap.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OKFILTER] Re: [Talk-ma] mapping caïdats and
cercles</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Thank you, Ali, that is really excellent! Because I am considering
moving to Morocco, I will keep a copy. :)
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<DIV>So I think then that we agree.</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=im style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma">
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT face=Calibri><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Admin_level=5 is for prefectures and provinces
(collectively, wilaya) [THIS IS A CHANGE]</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri><FONT size=3></FONT><BR><FONT
color=#000000></FONT></FONT></DIV></SPAN>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><FONT
color=#000000><FONT face=Calibri><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Admin_level=6 is
</FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">for </FONT><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">cercles [THIS IS
NEW]</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><BR><FONT
color=#000000 face=Calibri></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><FONT
color=#000000><FONT face=Calibri><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Admin_level=7 is
</FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">for </FONT><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">caidat, districts and <FONT
color=#ff0000>pashalik(arrondissements)</FONT> [THIS IS THE
SAME]</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><SPAN class=im
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma">
<DIV><BR><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT face=Calibri><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Admin_level=8 is </FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">for
</FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">municipalities and rural communes [THIS IS
THE SAME]</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT face=Calibri><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT face=Calibri><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">I will
modify the wiki and we can work on changing Admin_level=6 to
</FONT></FONT></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">Admin_level=</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">5.</SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Ali <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:ali.zaroili@gmail.com"
target=_blank>ali.zaroili@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>hi,</DIV>
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<DIV>A better axplanation for <FONT
color=#000000>Moroccan_administrative_division</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><A title=http://www.aecid.ma/IMG/pdf_PNUD-GOLD_Maghreb.pdf
href="http://www.aecid.ma/IMG/pdf_PNUD-GOLD_Maghreb.pdf"
target=_blank>http://www.aecid.ma/IMG/pdf_PNUD-GOLD_Maghreb.pdf</A></DIV>
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<DIV>I agreed with this change but only with a little changes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT face=Calibri><SPAN><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Admin_level=5 is for prefectures and provinces
(collectively, wilaya) [THIS IS A
CHANGE]</FONT></SPAN><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Calibri><FONT size=3></FONT><BR><FONT
color=#000000></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV></SPAN>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT face=Calibri><SPAN><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Admin_level=6 is </FONT></SPAN><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><SPAN>for </SPAN></FONT><SPAN><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">cercles [THIS IS
NEW]</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><BR><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT face=Calibri><SPAN><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Admin_level=7 is </FONT></SPAN><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><SPAN>for </SPAN></FONT><SPAN><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">caidat, districts and <FONT
color=#ff0000>pashalik(arrondissements)</FONT> [THIS IS THE
SAME]</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV><SPAN>
<DIV><SPAN><BR><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT face=Calibri><SPAN><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Admin_level=8 is </FONT></SPAN><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><SPAN>for </SPAN></FONT><SPAN><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">municipalities and rural communes [THIS IS THE
SAME]</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT
face=Calibri><SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV></SPAN>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT face=Calibri><SPAN>best
regards</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=john.freed.paris@gmail.com
href="mailto:john.freed.paris@gmail.com" target=_blank>John Freed</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:21 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=fred.rodrigo@gmail.com
href="mailto:fred.rodrigo@gmail.com" target=_blank>Frédéric Rodrigo</A> ; <A
title=ali.zaroili@gmail.com href="mailto:ali.zaroili@gmail.com"
target=_blank>ali zaroili</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=talk-ma@openstreetmap.org
href="mailto:talk-ma@openstreetmap.org"
target=_blank>talk-ma@openstreetmap.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OKFILTER] Re: [Talk-ma] mapping caïdats and
cercles</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>I agree with Frederic that local_authority is probably not the
best solution because the caidats really are (always) part of the cercles. I
also note that Mali has cercles as Admin_level=6
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<DIV>So I would propose:</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Admin_level=5 is
for prefectures and provinces (collectively, wilaya) [THIS IS A
CHANGE]</SPAN><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Admin_level=6 is
</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">for </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">cercles and pashalik [THIS IS NEW]</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Admin_level=7 is
</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">for </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">caidat, districts and arrondissements [THIS IS THE
SAME]</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Admin_level=8 is
</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">for </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">municipalities and rural communes [THIS IS THE
SAME]</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">As I said, there
are only 75 wilayat, so this is not too hard a change. I would be willing to
do it if everyone agrees.</SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Frédéric Rodrigo <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:fred.rodrigo@gmail.com"
target=_blank>fred.rodrigo@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><SPAN>Le
28/03/2015 17:23, Ali a écrit :<BR></SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">hi,<SPAN><BR>I
inserted a time ago Morocco on that page<BR><A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Admin_level"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/<U></U>wiki/Admin_level</A><BR>I
forgot that page.<BR>Maybe i change the Admin_level=7 from "caidats"
to "cercles" and assing<BR>the "caidats" to boundary_local_authority would
be a good sullution,<BR>because the "caidats" are under lower level then
"cercles".<BR><BR>boundary_local_authority are mentioned here in the
overlay:<BR><A
href="http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=11&lat=34.57298&lon=-2.51861&layers=B0000FFFFFFFFFFFFTFFFFFFFFF"
target=_blank>http://layers.openstreetmap.<U></U>fr/?zoom=11&lat=34.57298&lon=-<U></U>2.51861&layers=<U></U>B0000FFFFFFFFFFFFTFFFFFFFFF</A><BR></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dlocal_authority"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/<U></U>wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dlocal_<U></U>authority</A><BR>local_authority
was introduced in France because admin_level not match the definition.
French local_authorities are groups of admin_level=8, but can be cross
any other admin_level. It's not part of the country admin_level
scheme.<SPAN><BR><BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">administrative
layer of Morocco:<BR><A
href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ca%C3%AFdat#/media/File:Moroccan_administrative_division.png"
target=_blank>http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/<U></U>Ca%C3%AFdat#/media/File:<U></U>Moroccan_administrative_<U></U>division.png</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></SPAN>Moving
existing admin_level may have sense.
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regards<BR><BR>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Frédéric
Rodrigo<BR>Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 2:44 PM<BR>To: Ali ; <A
href="mailto:talk-ma@openstreetmap.org"
target=_blank>talk-ma@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>Subject: Re: [Talk-ma]
mapping caïdats and cercles<BR><BR>Hi,<BR><BR>Admin_level=7 is already
documented as districts/caïdats on the wiki :<BR><A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Admin_level"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/<U></U>wiki/Admin_level</A><BR><BR>But
not used in data :<BR><A
href="http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=11&lat=34.57298&lon=-2.51861&layers=B0000FFFFFFFFFFFFTFFFFFFFFF"
target=_blank>http://layers.openstreetmap.<U></U>fr/?zoom=11&lat=34.57298&lon=-<U></U>2.51861&layers=<U></U>B0000FFFFFFFFFFFFTFFFFFFFFF</A><BR><BR><BR>admin_level
must be used for... admin limit and must be consistent,<BR>lower levels
must be included in upper level. Note, boundaries can be<BR>other type
than adminstrative. I don't know enough the Morocan<BR>admistrative layers
to provide an answer, but only point you
ressources.<BR><BR>Frédéric.<BR><BR><BR>Le 28/03/2015 14:23, Ali a écrit
:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">hi,<BR>I
want to start mapping the caïdats and cercles as seen in<BR>example:<A
href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_de_Taourirt"
target=_blank>http://fr.wikipedia.<U></U>org/wiki/Province_de_Taourirt</A>
under<BR>Découpage territorial.<BR>any idee how to assing the amin
levels for these cercles and caidats?<BR>explain of caidats is in
wikipedia:<BR><A
href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ca%C3%AFdat#Le_ca.C3.AFdat_dans_le_d.C3.A9coupage_administratif"
target=_blank>http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/<U></U>Ca%C3%AFdat#Le_ca.C3.AFdat_<U></U>dans_le_d.C3.A9coupage_<U></U>administratif</A><BR><BR>i
know the “cercles” are “children” of a province (parent)
and<BR>“caidats” are “children of “cercles”.<BR>knowing the province has
admin_level=6 and municipalities has<BR>admin-level=8.<BR>if i use admin
level=7 for “cercles” is it possible to use admin level=9<BR>for
“caidats” or not?<BR>best
regards<BR><BR><BR>______________________________<U></U>_________________<BR>Talk-ma
mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:Talk-ma@openstreetmap.org"
target=_blank>Talk-ma@openstreetmap.org</A><BR><A
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target=_blank>https://lists.openstreetmap.<U></U>org/listinfo/talk-ma</A><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>______________________________<U></U>_________________<BR>Talk-ma
mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:Talk-ma@openstreetmap.org"
target=_blank>Talk-ma@openstreetmap.org</A><BR><A
href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ma"
target=_blank>https://lists.openstreetmap.<U></U>org/listinfo/talk-ma</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>______________________________<U></U>_________________<BR>Talk-ma
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