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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">¡Creo que es un buen tema y seguramente
nuestros especialistas de etiquetas (Jaakko y Brian) pueden
apoyarnos con eso!<br>
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En Managua, creo que he sido yo, el que más zonas residenciales ha
puesto y quiero compartir que he hecho por el momento. Seguramente
es basado en cierta ignorancia y me parece buena idea que lo
conversamos para llegar a una clasificación consistente para
nosotros.<br>
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Las entidades pequeñas los etiqueté como "place:sneighbourhood" y
los que unen varias entidades los clasifiqué como "place:suburb".
O sea, con un ejemplo:<br>
<br>
Reparto Schick sería "place:suburb" y las diferentes etapas y la
Villa Cuba serían "place:neighbourhood".<br>
Altamira sería "place:suburb" y las diferentes etapas y Bosques de
Altamira serían "place:neighbourhood"<br>
<br>
Eso está basado en "A <b>neighbourhood</b> is a named,
geographically localised place within a <tt
style="background-color:#e0e0f0; white-space:pre;" dir="ltr"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place"
title="Key:place">place</a>=<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dsuburb"
title="Tag:place=suburb">suburb</a></tt> of a larger
settlement, such as a large <tt style="background-color:#e0e0f0;
white-space:pre;" dir="ltr"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place"
title="Key:place">place</a>=<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dcity"
title="Tag:place=city">city</a></tt> or as within a smaller
settlement, such as a <tt style="background-color:#e0e0f0;
white-space:pre;" dir="ltr"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place"
title="Key:place">place</a>=<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dtown"
title="Tag:place=town">town</a></tt> or a <tt
style="background-color:#e0e0f0; white-space:pre;" dir="ltr"><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place"
title="Key:place">place</a>=<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dvillage"
title="Tag:place=village">village</a></tt>.
" (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dneighbourhood">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dneighbourhood</a>)<br>
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Los neighbourhoods en mi opinión deberían ser áreas/polígonos, los
suburbs pordrían ser nodos indicando el centro, conectando todos
los neighbourhoods que forman esta parte con una relación por
"suburb".<br>
<br>
Luego, la clasificación local que mencionas (barrios,
residenciales, urbanizaciones) y los cuales son más especificados
en el documento que mandó Carlos Rivas, creo que deben ir en un
nivel más detallado. Me puedo imaginar bien algo así:
neighbourhood=residential, neighbourhood=barrio (dejaría Barrio,
ya que existe en ingles como españolismo),
neighbourhood=urbanization.<br>
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Voy a tratar de hacer un ejemplo de lo que se me ocurrió:<br>
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Nodo <br>
name=Reparto Schick<br>
place=suburb<br>
is_in=Managua<br>
relation=Reparto Schick, Managua, Nicaragua<br>
<br>
Poligono<br>
name=Reparto Schick Segunda Etapa<br>
place=neighbourhood<br>
<span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class="" lang="es"><span
title="Area The boundary of a ward or neighbourhood is mapped
as an area.
">boundary=administrative</span></span><br>
<span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class="" lang="es"><span
title="Area The boundary of a ward or neighbourhood is mapped
as an area.
">border_type=neighbourhood </span></span><br>
neighbourhood=barrio<br>
is_in=Reparto Schick<br>
relation=Reparto Schick, Managua, Nicaragua<br>
<br>
Poligono<br>
name=Villa Cuba<br>
place=neighbourhood<br>
<span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class="" lang="es"><span
title="Area The boundary of a ward or neighbourhood is mapped
as an area.
">boundary=administrative</span></span><br>
<span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class="" lang="es"><span
title="Area The boundary of a ward or neighbourhood is mapped
as an area.
">border_type=neighbourhood </span></span><br>
neighbourhood=barrio<br>
is_in=Reparto Schick<br>
relation=Reparto Schick, Managua, Nicaragua<br>
<br>
Relación:<br>
name=Reparto Schick, Managua, Nicaragua<br>
place=suburb<br>
is_in=Nicaragua<br>
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On 01/28/2014 09:59 PM, Cristhian Vanessa G wrote:<br>
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<div>¡Hola chicos!<br>
Me gustaría que me ayudarán a definir el tipo de relación,
etiquetas que podría tener un barrio. Managua esta
dividida por 7 distritos en los cuales hay asentamientos,
barrios, comunidades rurales. según wikipedia tenemos 137
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrio"
title="Barrio">barrios</a>, 94 <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivienda"
title="Vivienda">residenciales</a>, 134 <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanizaci%C3%B3n"
title="Urbanización">urbanizaciones progresivas</a>, 270
asentamientos.<br>
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<span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class="" lang="es"><span
title="The 230 neighbourhoods of the city are the
basic building blocks common to both of these
schemes."></span></span></div>
Encontré varias definiciones o jeranquias que me llamo la
atención en la wiki de OSM<br>
<span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class="" lang="es"><span
title="A ward or neighbourhood is to be mapped with a
node and boundary.">*Un barrio o vecindario se va a
correlacionar con un nodo y límite. </span><span
title="Well-known community areas or other named
districts of Winnipeg should also be mapped, with only a
node.
">Áreas de la comunidad conocidos u otros distritos con
nombre también se deben asignar , con sólo un nodo.</span></span><br>
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[1] type=site
, place=neighbourhood, name=<name of subdivision>
......etc<br>
<br>
*<span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class="" lang="es"><span
title="Node Each ward or neighbourhood is mapped with a
node near its centre, having the following tags (where
applicable).
">El nodo de cada barrio o vecindario se asigna a un
nodo cerca de su centro , con las siguientes etiquetas</span></span><br>
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place=suburb (or place=locality for an unpopulated
industrial neighbourhood)<br>
name=<name><br>
population=<number><br>
source:population=<free-text citation><br>
wikipedia=<url><br>
is_in=<ward>; <community committee><br>
<span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class="" lang="es"><span
title="Area The boundary of a ward or neighbourhood is
mapped as an area.
">* El límite de un barrio o vecindario está asignada
como <b>área</b> <br>
boundary=administrative<br>
border_type=community committee or border_type=ward or
border_type=neighbourhood <br>
</span></span><span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class=""
lang="es"><span title="Relations
">*Relaciones<br>
</span></span><span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class=""
lang="es"><span class="" title="Better still, each subdivision
can be represented as a relation, grouping the place node
(with role : label) and boundary (role : outer).">cada
subdivisión puede ser representada como una relación ,
agrupando el nodo lugar. </span><span class="" title="The
boundary can be composed of an area, or of individual ways
sharing endpoints, and may contain holes represented by ways
or areas (role : inner).">El límite puede estar compuesto
por un área, o de formas individuales que comparten puntos
finales, </span><span class="" title="A boundary segment
can serve for both of its adjacent subdivisions, or for both
a neighbourhood and its containing ward.">Un segmento de
frontera puede servir para ambos de sus subdivisiones
adyacentes. </span></span><br>
type=boundary<br>
name=<subdivision name><br>
boundary=administrative<br>
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<div>********** *********************************<br>
<span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span
class="">Hey guys</span><span>!</span> <br>
<span class="">I'd like to</span> <span class="">help
define</span> <span class="">the type</span> <span
class="">of relationship you</span> <span class="">could
have a</span> <span class="">neighborhood.</span> <span
class="">Managua</span> <span class="">is divided</span>
<span class="">in 7</span> <span class="">districts</span>
<span class="">in</span> <span class="">which there are</span>
<span class="">settlements</span><span>, neighborhoods,</span>
<span class="">rural communities.</span> <span class="">according
to</span> <span class="">wikipedia</span> <span class="">we
have</span> <span class="">137</span> <span class="">districts</span><span>,</span>
<span class="">94</span> <span class="">residential</span>
<span class="">developments,</span> <span class="">progressive</span>
<span class="">134</span><span>, 270</span> <span class="">settlements</span>
<br>
<br>
<span class="">I found</span> <span class="">several
definitions</span> <span class="">or</span> <span
class="">jeranquias</span> <span class="">that</span> <span
class="">caught my</span> <span class="">attention on the</span>
<span class="">OSM</span> <span class="">wiki</span> <br>
<span class="">*</span> <span class="">A neighborhood</span>
<span class="">or neighborhood</span> <span class="">is to
be mapped</span> <span class="">to a node</span> <span
class="">and</span> <span class="">edge.</span> <span
class="">Areas</span> <span class="">known</span> <span
class="">community</span> <span class="">name</span> <span
class="">or other</span> <span class="">districts</span>
<span class="">also</span> <span class="">must be assigned</span>
<span class="">with</span> <span class="">only one node</span><span>.</span></span><br>
[1] type=site
, place=neighbourhood, name=<name of subdivision> .....
etc<br>
<span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span
class=""><br>
*The node in</span> <span class="">each neighborhood</span>
<span class="">or neighborhood</span> <span class="">is
assigned</span> <span class="">to a node</span> <span
class="">near its center</span><span>,</span> <span
class="">with these tags</span></span><br>
place=suburb (or place=locality for an unpopulated
industrial neighbourhood)<br>
name=<name><br>
population=<number><br>
source:population=<free-text citation><br>
wikipedia=<url><br>
is_in=<ward>; <community committee><br>
*<span tabindex="-1" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span
class="">The boundary of a</span> <span class="">neighborhood
or community</span> <span class="">area</span> <span
class="">is mapped as<br>
</span></span><span tabindex="-1" id="result_box"
class="" lang="es"><span title="Area The boundary of a ward
or neighbourhood is mapped as an area.
">boundary=administrative<br>
border_type=community committee or border_type=ward or
border_type=neighbourhood<br>
*</span></span><span tabindex="-1" id="result_box"
class="" lang="en"><span class="">relations</span> <br>
<span class="">each subdivision</span> <span class="">can
be represented as</span> <span class="">a relationship,</span>
<span class="">gathering</span> <span class="">place</span>
<span class="">node.</span> <span class="">The limit may</span>
<span class="">be comprised of</span> <span class="">an
area</span><span>,</span> <span class="">or individual</span>
<span class="">forms</span> <span class="">sharing</span> <span
class="">endpoints,</span> <span class="">a</span> <span
class="">border</span> <span class="">segment</span> <span
class="">can serve both</span> <span class="">of its
adjacent</span> <span class="">subdivisions.<br>
</span></span> <span tabindex="-1" id="result_box"
class="" lang="en"><span class=""> type=boundary<br>
name=<subdivision name><br>
boundary=administrative<br>
</span></span></div>
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