<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
<!--[if !mso]>
<style>
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style>
<![endif]-->
<style>
<!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Wingdings;
panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Webdings;
panose-1:5 3 1 2 1 5 9 6 7 3;}
@font-face
{font-family:-webkit-sans-serif;
panose-1:0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0cm;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0cm;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
tt
{mso-style-priority:99;
font-family:"Courier New";}
p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Ballontekst Char";
margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
span.apple-style-span
{mso-style-name:apple-style-span;}
span.E-mailStijl21
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
span.BallontekstChar
{mso-style-name:"Ballontekst Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:Ballontekst;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;}
@page Section1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.Section1
{page:Section1;}
/* List Definitions */
@list l0
{mso-list-id:860363793;
mso-list-template-ids:-6663252;}
@list l0:level1
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:36.0pt;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l0:level2
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:;
mso-level-tab-stop:72.0pt;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;}
ol
{margin-bottom:0cm;}
ul
{margin-bottom:0cm;}
-->
</style>
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="2050" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang=NL link=blue vlink=purple>
<div class=Section1>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Heel informatief.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Maar voor het taggen is dat moeilijk.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Het verschil is subtiel, en vaak niet <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>eenvoudig te zien in het veld.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>maintained forest, kan in de praktijk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>natural forest worden zonder dat je dat ziet ,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>simpelweg doordat SBH stopt met onderhoud.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Waar e.a. bekend is kan dat natuurlijk correct<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>getagged worden. Blijft de vraag, hoe weet je dat<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>zonder copyrights te schenden.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Het staat er niet opgeschreven met een bordje.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Gert Gremmen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-----------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><img width=150 height=50 id="Afbeelding_x0020_1"
src="cid:image001.gif@01C98ABD.96E03D60" alt=Osm></span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:green'> Before printing, think about the environment.</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> talk-nl-bounces@openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-nl-bounces@openstreetmap.org] <b>Namens </b>Mart</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>ijn van Exel<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> Monday, February 09, 2009 1:43 PM<br>
<b>Aan:</b> OpenStreetMap NL discussion list<br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> [OSM-talk-nl] landuse=forest versus natural=wood<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Ik zag bij een casual inspectie dat bosgebieden bij de
AND-import zijn geimporteerd als natural=wood, in plaats van landuse=forest.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Dat strookt wat mij betreft niet met de beschrijvingen op de
betreffende wikipagina's, en ook niet met het gebruik bij onze oosterburen.
Zie <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dwood"
target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dwood</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Quote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:0cm;line-height:18.0pt'><span style='font-family:"-webkit-sans-serif","serif"'>When
tagging woodland, use this approach which is the commonly adopted one:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:1.2pt;
margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-family:"-webkit-sans-serif","serif"'>Check if the area is
"managed maintained or industrial used forest". This is almost always
the case in Europe, with an emphasis on "managed maintained". Only
very small areas are really left untouched and can be considered wild boondocks,
primeval forest, virgin wood, national parks etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:1.2pt;
margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-family:"-webkit-sans-serif","serif"'>If it is managed forest, set
just </span><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:#E0E0F0'><a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse" title="Key:landuse"><span
style='color:#002BB8;text-decoration:none'>landuse</span></a>=<a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dforest"
title="Tag:landuse=forest"><span style='color:#5A3696;text-decoration:none'>forest</span></a></span></tt><span
style='font-family:"-webkit-sans-serif","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:1.2pt;
margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-family:"-webkit-sans-serif","serif"'>If it is really primeval
forest with absolutely no forestry use, where nobody removes dead trees, plants
new trees etc, set just </span><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
background:#E0E0F0'><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:natural"
title="Key:natural"><span style='color:#002BB8;text-decoration:none'>natural</span></a>=</span></tt><strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";background:#E0E0F0'>wood</span></strong><span
style='font-family:"-webkit-sans-serif","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Is hier al eens over gediscussieerd? Ik kon niets vinden
op <a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AND_Data/AND-tag-mapping-to-OSM">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AND_Data/AND-tag-mapping-to-OSM </a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Op basis van de hierboven beschreven conventie zou ik
pleiten voor het hertaggen van de AND-geimporteerde data die nu natural=wood is
als landuse=forest.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>
martijn van exel -+- <a href="mailto:mvexel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mvexel@gmail.com</a>
-+- <a href="http://www.schaaltreinen.nl/" target="_blank">http://www.schaaltreinen.nl/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>