<div dir="ltr">Although, gadm says "<span style="color:rgb(73,73,73);font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:20px">The coordinate reference system is </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_coordinate_system" style="color:rgb(21,105,193);text-decoration:none;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:20px">latitude/longitude</a><span style="color:rgb(73,73,73);font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:20px"> and the</span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Geodetic_System" style="color:rgb(21,105,193);text-decoration:none;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:20px">WGS84</a><span style="color:rgb(73,73,73);font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:20px"> datum." It does not match the GPS tracks collected in field. It is in Everest 1830, we must convert(transform/project) it to WGS84 to be used in OSM.</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Nama Budhathoki <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:namabudhathoki@gmail.com" target="_blank">namabudhathoki@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Looks like we should redirect this discussion to OSM-legal talk page. Once the license issue is sorted out, we will be happy to work on the technical details for uploading data.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">It would be great if one of you Prabhas or Amrit could summarize this discussion and post it to legal talk-page.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Nama<br></div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:27 AM, amrit karmacharya <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amrit.im@gmail.com" target="_blank">amrit.im@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Actually gadm is already being used in OSM for Zonal Boundary. <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/45328019" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/45328019</a> and <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/340899" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/340899</a>.<div>
<br></div><div>Gadm States the data as "They can be used for non-commercial purposes only. It is not allowed to redistribute <div>these data, or use them for commercial purposes, without prior consent." OSM can be used for Commercial Purpose Too so there may be some kind of license issue. we should write to gadm and osm legal.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The boundary in OSM is not accurate, looks like the geometry has been simplified to remove unnecessary nodes and convert curves to lines. There are places where osm boundary does not match actual boundary. I checked the boundary in Gadm, and it is accurate there.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Prabhas Pokharel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:prabhas.pokharel@gmail.com" target="_blank">prabhas.pokharel@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Actually, I just realized that the data that is distributed by GADM.org for Nepal contains VDC boundaries (as admin level 4), and is licensed with the following note (its in the readme.pdf if you download the data; a copy is <a href="https://github.com/prabhasp/NepalMaps/raw/gh-pages/baselayers/NPL_adm/read_me.pdf" target="_blank">here</a>):</div>
<div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div><span style="font-size:11pt"><font face="Calibri,Bold">"Sources Used": </font></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">FortiusOne Inc. (via WorldBank; <a href="http://maps.worldbank.org/overlays/3238" target="_blank">http://maps.worldbank.org/overlays/3238</a>)
(Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License.)</span><br></div><div><p><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Is this license permissive enough to be used in OSM? Since only attribution is required, can we do the attribution via an OSM comment, or perhaps even by creating a specific account that is used just to upload this information....?</font></p>
</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Prabhas Pokharel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:prabhas.pokharel@gmail.com" target="_blank">prabhas.pokharel@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">(OSM-Nepal list.. see the conversation below about putting VDCs of Nepal into OSM).</div>
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<br></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I'll try to see if I can find contacts at UN/OCHA who may have access to the digital files here.</div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">
In the meantime, if anybody wants, most of the files seem to have been uploaded by <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sadalmelik" target="_blank">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sadalmelik</a>; maybe we can contact him / her?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:50 AM, amrit karmacharya <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amrit.im@gmail.com" target="_blank">amrit.im@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">IT says <span style="line-height:19.1875px;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(247,248,255);font-family:sans-serif">This work is excerpted from an official document of the United Nations. The policy of this organisation is to keep most of its documents in the </span><b style="line-height:19.1875px;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(247,248,255);font-family:sans-serif"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/public_domain" title="w:public domain" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);background-image:none" target="_blank">public domain</a></b><span style="line-height:19.1875px;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(247,248,255);font-family:sans-serif"> in order to disseminate "as widely as possible the ideas (contained) in the United Nations Publications".</span><div>
<span style="line-height:19.1875px;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(247,248,255);font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height:19.1875px;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(247,248,255);font-family:sans-serif">SO maybe we can contact UN for digital format. In its current state i.e. png format, it is not much helpful. I tried using it as background in JOSM but i could not idenify the boundaries.</span></div>
</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Nama Budhathoki <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:namabudhathoki@gmail.com" target="_blank">namabudhathoki@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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We will explore this. Thanks for the link. <br>
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Nama<br></div><div style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Prabhas Pokharel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:prabhas.pokharel@gmail.com" target="_blank">prabhas.pokharel@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Can we use these? <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:District_VDC_maps_of_Nepal" target="_blank">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:District_VDC_maps_of_Nepal</a></font><br clear="all">
</div><div><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Might be worth seeing if one of these (maybe walking papers style) can be converted to actual boundaries, and going from there....</span><br></div>
<div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Just noticed that google maps already has village markers for each VDC and Municipality; I think they take centerpoints (or maybe the whole area, I'm not sure).</font></div>
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