<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Throw another vote in for having macrons. Signs will likely be updated over decades. Database properties can be updated a lot faster. And what happens at the midpoint of sign updates where some have it and others don’t?<div><br></div><div>So yeah, if the legal name has the macron as an option then we use the macron. </div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>James<br><br><div dir="ltr">———<div>Senior Software Developer/Engineering Lead</div><div>TheFlightlessGeek.co.nz</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 10/11/2021, at 12:46, Timothée Duhamel <timothee.duhamel@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Here is one example of the tuhotō edit warring: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/112892966">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/112892966</a><br><br>The argument used is that the signage on the ground should be the "source of truth". This is a defensible position, but, as stated by the DWG rep in that changeset, ultimately it is up to the local community (us? this mailing list?) to set guidelines on name tag usage.<div><br></div><div>I agree with everyone else so far, that we should include tuhotō on the name tag (where the name is gazetted as such) even when signage on the ground may commonly exclude the macron.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 12:31 PM Kyle Hensel <<a href="mailto:K.y.l.e@outlook.co.nz">K.y.l.e@outlook.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also agree with Andrew and Eliot, the name tag should use the official name, which may include macrons.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree, the name tag should reference the official place name wherever possible, this includes the use of macrons. That has been my consistent approach.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 12:13 Eliot Blennerhassett <<a href="mailto:eliot@blennerhassett.gen.nz" target="_blank">eliot@blennerhassett.gen.nz</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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On 10/11/21 11:56, Michael Stark wrote:<br>
> Should place names include macrons in the "name" tag? I'm trying to get some sort of consensus as one user keeps edit warring with myself and others. DWG is unwilling to step in do anything.<br>
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Certainly macrons are part of some official place names.<br>
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E.g. Tāmaki <a href="https://gazetteer.linz.govt.nz/place/55840" target="_blank">
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Are your names with macrons in the gazetteer? If so, the "name" should contain the macron.<br>
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Care to share an example of the edit war?<br>
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