Hi Zoren,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 4:29 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sorabsuperstar@web.de">sorabsuperstar@web.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
3.) What the heck is happening on Osmarender? Global warming? (Why is there this nice little 200 sqkm giant-rectangle between Quezon City and Alabang redered as if it's all in the water, i.e. all blue?) At first i though it is a onetime-runtime error. But Osma keeps rendering these areas wrong. Does anyone know who to contact and report the bug to?</blockquote>
<div><br>It's a rendering issue with Osmarender getting confused about coastlines. This is already a known issue. Just ignore it for the meantime.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
4.) Did you guys already discuss a general rule on Bgry. names? At first I tagged them "place=suburbs", however after realizing that the vast majority of Brgys in the Capital Region is already tagged as "village", i am now using/changing to "village" for Brgys. Any opinions on that?</blockquote>
<div><br>There's no discussion yet regarding barangays. I prefer leaving out the "Barangay" part of the name (unless it's numeric like "Barangay 30"). As for the tagging, "place=village" and "place=suburb" doesn't seem right. I think we should put a moratorium first on tagging the barangays center nodes. But cities should have "place=city" and municipalities should have "place=town". I think this is already done (except for the newly-created cities/towns).<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">5.) Residential landuse: I realized that IanLopez and Seav started to put landuse tags on the gated subdivisions in Makati. Good thing that, so I continue doing this for the non-gated residential areas in Makati. I saw that you devided the tags more or less by Brgys. So I am trying to do that too. However since it actually is still about landuse, I so far put cut-outs if there is a non residential area next to the Brgy border. E.g. here: <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.56573&lon=121.04668&zoom=17&layers=0B00FTFT" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.56573&lon=121.04668&zoom=17&layers=0B00FTFT</a><br>
Brgy. Guadalupe Nuevo stretches down to Pasig River, but I cut out the area between Burgos and river because there is a market, thus "retail", and a trunk link. (Please check the edit mode. You can't see it on Osma due to the bug described under 3. above, and mapnik is not rendered yet. )<br>
Pro of this: the actual landuse will be redered. Con of this: It does not reflect actual Brgy. Borders, which would also be a nice-to-have. Which one do u consider more important?</blockquote><div> <br>I'm putting "landuse=residential" completely around the subdivision/village/gated community. Note that these gated communities are NOT equal to the barangay even if they share the same name. For the barangays, I just mark the barangay boundaries with "boundary=administrative", "admin_level=10" or (8?). (See a previous thread in this mailing list.)<br>
<br>See Urdaneta Village and Barangay Urdaneta for example. (<a href="http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.55603&lon=121.02917&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF">http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.55603&lon=121.02917&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF</a>) Urdaneta Village has "landuse=residential" and "name=Urdaneta Village" tags but there's are boundary ways following the center line of Ayala Ave., Makati Ave., Buendia, and EDSA which delineate Barangay Urdaneta. The barangay includes The Peninsula Manila, and Roxas Triangle, which are outside the Village.<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">6.) Street names: So far I followed the practice to name Street names without the word "Street" (nor "Str.", nor "St.") as large part of the MM-map were already tagged that way, and I observed that it's also a common practise in the Philippines to ommit the word "Street" when somebody gives directions or the like.<br>
HOW-ever I just saw that there is a section about that in the OSM guidelines, saying that "Street" or "Road" (etc) should always appear in full (so not even "Str.", "St.", "Rd." <- eventually abbreviations shall be done by the renderer where applicable).<br>
What shall we do: Stick to our present practice or change it from now on (and eventually in 200 years correcting all the names we have so far)?</blockquote><div><br>I personally use the convention to leave out "Street" (except numerical ones like "3rd Street"). My opinion is that "Street" is the most common and becomes the default. All other names ("Road", "Highway", "Boulevard", "Avenue", etc.) have those qualifiers. But in any case, DO NOT abbreviate.<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">8.) Does anyone use OSM on KDE-Marble, and if yes, does anyone have an idea how to switch to Osmarender there rather than Mapnik tiles?</blockquote>
<div> <br>I've tried KDE Marble on Windows. It should be possible to use Osmarender in the future but not right now. Just talk to the Marble guys to lodge a feature request. :-)<br><br></div></div><br>Regards,<br>Eugene / seav<br>
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