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Eugene / seav,<br>
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Yes, the southern part of Davao City and the northern part of Davao del Sur is the boundary in the province of Sta. Cruz. If you notice here http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=6.9742&lon=125.3851&zoom=12&layers=B000FTF there is no boundary between Sta. Cruz and Davao City yet, I am looking for the boundary data and if somebody has it, it will be great.<br>
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If voting will be needed regarding your proposal, you have my vote.<br>
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murlwe<br>
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<-----Original Message-----> <br>
>From: Eugene Alvin Villar [seav80@gmail.com]<br>
>Sent: 5/1/2009 9:20:55 AM<br>
>To: murlwe@mail2engineer.com<br>
>Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org<br>
>Subject: Re: Chartered Cities<br>
><br>
>Hi Marloue,<br>
><br>
>Great that you brought this topic up since I mentioned in my old email the<br>
>problem of representing chartered and independent cities.. I'll paste my<br>
>original piece here for reference:<br>
><br>
><br>
>III. Highly-urbanized Cities and Independent Component Cities<br>
><br>
>How do we handle the case of Highly-urbanized Cities and Independent Component<br>
>Cities? boundary=administrative implies an administration delineation of sorts<br>
>(e.g., the area delineated by the boundaries of Rizal province is under the<br>
>jurisdiction of the Provincial Government of Rizal). HUCs and ICCs are<br>
>administratively independent of their provinces (save from unusual exceptions<br>
>depending on the City Charter, like Mandaue City residents being able to vote<br>
>for Cebu Provincial positions despite being an HUC). For example, Cebu City is a<br>
>HUC and so the Cebu Provincial Government has no legal say over the territory of<br>
>Cebu CIty (except for the limited case of paying costs to Cebu City for<br>
>"hosting" the Cebu Provincial Capitol). (This has resulted in a lot of legal<br>
>battle between Cebu City and Cebu Province, like the dispute on who has<br>
>jurisdiction over Osmena Circle in Cebu City.)<br>
><br>
>(See this Wikipedia article section regarding independent cities:<br>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_of_the_Philippines#Independent_cities )<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>My proposal is that provincial boundaries should exclude these cities. So<br>
>Benguet's borders will have Baguio City as an enclave while Cebu province's<br>
>borders will exclude Cebu City, Mandaue City, and Lapu-Lapu City. So Davao del<br>
>Sur's northern border will be Davao City's southern border.<br>
><br>
><br>
>Eugene / seav<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Marloue Pidor <murlwe@mail2engineer.com> wrote:<br>
><br>
>I created a separate thread for this to give focus to the original topic.<br>
><br>
>What I said is actually true, in March 1, 1937 (but Araw ng Dabaw is in March<br>
>16) Davao City is inaugurated by President Manuel L. Quezon as a chartered city<br>
>by then Davao City is separated from Davao del Sur. Unlike Davao del Sur, Davao<br>
>City doesn't have a Governor. Well, actually we are not insisting, in fact most<br>
>of us does not know that Davao City is separate to any provinces it is already<br>
>separate and that includes Zamboanga City and Puerto Princesa (correct me if I'm<br>
>wrong).<br>
><br>
>It is also correct that for statistical purposes DC is grouped under Davao del<br>
>Sur. That is why the City Government announces before in tri-media not to fill<br>
>in the "Province" part of any government forms. To separate the Davao City data<br>
>from Davao del Sur. <br>
><br>
>Here's some reference:<br>
><br>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartered_city<br>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davao_City<br>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboanga_City<br>
>http://www.nscb.gov.ph/ru11/davao_city/default.htm<br>
><br>
>murlwe<br>
><br>
><-----Original Message-----> <br>
>>From: Eugene Alvin Villar [seav80@gmail.com]<br>
>>Sent: 4/30/2009 8:28:19 PM<br>
>>To: murlwe@mail2engineer.com<br>
>>Cc: emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com;talk-ph@openstreetmap.org<br>
>>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Revisiting the admin_level values forboundary=administrative<br>
>><br>
>>Hi Marloue,<br>
>><br>
>>Slightly off-topic question. Since you're from Davao City, are residents of the<br>
>>city adamant about insisting that Davao City is separate from Davao del Sur?<br>
>>*Some* people from Zamboanga City are positively vocal (and sometimes actually<br>
>>hostile!) whenever people say they are part of Zamboanga del Sur[1].<br>
>><br>
>>Many maps of the Philippines simplify the country's administrative situation by<br>
>>making ALL cities (except those in Metro Manila) be "part" of a province. The<br>
>>National Statistical Coordination Board actually groups Davao City under Davao<br>
>>del Sur[2], but only for statistical purposes..<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Eugene / seav<br>
>><br>
>>----------<br>
>>[1] http://www.zamboanga.com/html/terrorism_attack_on_zamboanga_city.htm<br>
>><br>
>>[2]<br>
>>http://www.nscb.gov.ph/activestats/psgc/municipality.asp?muncode=112402000®code=11&provcode=24<br>
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