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<tt>Looking at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://osmdoc.com/en/tag/shop/">http://osmdoc.com/en/tag/shop/</a> I've seen numerous
variants of such a generic tag, but "yes" seems to be dominating:<br>
shop=yes (213 existing)<br>
shop=shop (123 existing)<br>
shop=other (54 existing)<br>
shop=whatever (15 existing)<br>
shop=undefined (14 existing)<br>
</tt><tt>shop=unknown (13 existing)<br>
</tt><tt>shop=? (12 existing)<br>
shop=FIXME (10 existing)<br>
shop=misc (8 existing)<br>
</tt><tt>shop=y (8 existing)<br>
</tt><tt>shop= (8 existing)<br>
shop=empty (6 existing) -- although this may mean that the shop is
vacant?<br>
shop=??? (2 existing)<br>
shop=Y (2 existing)<br>
shop=uknown [sic] (2 existing)<br>
shop=* (2 existing)<br>
shop=XXX-Fixme: unknown (2 existing)<br>
</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt>Is there any way to do a global search/replace on tags that
are
obvious misspellings or that need to be normalized, such as all the
above?<br>
I also noticed there is shop=betting, shop=bookmaker and shop=gambling.
Are anyone tagging those "secret" places where the jueting agents get
their numbers? :)<br>
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<tt>Also I've found a couple of interesting ones:<br>
for junk shops: shop=junk (5 existing) (there's also shop=second_hand,
5 existing)<br>
for vulcanizing shops: shop=tyres (26 existing)<br>
for pasalubong shops: shop=gifts (22 existing) or shop=gift (13
existing)<br>
for palengke: shop=wet_market (10 existing)<br>
for shoe shine/repair people with a fixed space: shop=shoe_repair (6
existing) or shop=shoemaker (5)<br>
for LPG stalls: shop=gas (2 existing)<br>
for the strawberry stalls along the way to Baguio: shop=fruit (21
existing)<br>
for the fish stalls along the way to various coastal towns: shop=fish
(46 existing)<br>
(the two last ones are a bit less serious, but you can't argue it's not
useful to have them there)<br>
or what about shop=sex for certain bars you should not venture into? OK
that was maybe taking it a bit far, but apparently there are 16 such
shops tagged already :)<br>
<br>
I've also seen semicolon in use, for example shop=sport;bicycle;outdoor<br>
Maybe we could use this to add our local flair, which is useful for
Pinoys, such as shop=gifts;pasalubong ?<br>
Is this a good way, or is it better to generalize as much as possible?<br>
How will GPSs deal with that (semi colon separated tags)?<br>
<br>
I've also seen shop=car;car_repair and shop=car, car_repair, and I
believe I've seen tags with | as well earlier. So which one is it,
comma, semicolon or pipe?<br>
<br>
Also, is singular or plural recommended? I've seen both gift an gifts.
I'm thinking singular would mke most sense, but I'm not sure.<br>
<br>
Ronny.<br>
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George Tujan wrote:
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<pre wrap="">can we setup a generic tag for POIs? so that when a contributor has
doubt on what tags to use they can just use the generic tag then
either update it or let others update it later
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo
Ltd.<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:raw@develo.ltd.uk"><raw@develo.ltd.uk></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Very interesting conversation!
I often wonder which tag to put on certain POIs and sometimes resort to
guessing, which of course is not good. What if we use this discussion as a
basis for a wiki page for Pinoy POIs, sort of like a dictionary of
amenities, like:
MMDA urinals - see toilets
Toilets - amenity=toilets; fee=yes/no
Newspaper stand - shop=newsagent
Cockfighting arena - sport=cockfighting
Multipurpose hall - building=yes; amenity=public_building
etc.
I would include the generic world wide ones as well, so we can use this as a
guideline for how to tag stuff when in doubt.
Or is there already such a page?
Ronny.
ian lopez wrote:
For pay toilets, amenity=toilets; fee=yes, while shop=newsagent is for
newspaper stands (I think). for DVD shops, I think that there is no tag for
it. The big G has "Quiapo DVD" (somewhat prominent when you look at it), but
I think that we can't tag it since it is somewhat illegal. Basketball courts
are easy, use sport=basketball. AFAIK, multipurpose buildings should be
building=yes, amenity=public_building. In some places, I tag cockfighting
arenas as sport=cockfighting, though a good number of people outside the
Philippines do not consider sabong as a sport (and illegal in some places).
Yellow Cab is a "pizza place", most likely to be tagged as
amenity=restaurant.
Regarding MMDA's urinals, it should be amenity=toilets, fee=no (from what I
know, most, if not all of its urinals are used for free),
operator=Metropolitan Manila Development Authority
--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Rally de Leon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ralleon@gmail.com"><ralleon@gmail.com></a> wrote:
From: Rally de Leon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ralleon@gmail.com"><ralleon@gmail.com></a>
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs
To: "maning sambale" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com"><emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com></a>
Cc: "osm-ph" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org"><talk-ph@openstreetmap.org></a>
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 5:08 PM
(not all are distinctly ph poi's, but for the sake of discussion, here
are some POI examples i know or don't know):
-Ukay-ukay / Wagwagan
-Hilot (manghihilot / mangtatawas)
-Daycare - is this classified as a school?
-Multipurpose Hall / Barangay Covered Courts - that cannot be plainly
classified as basketball court.
-Store that only sells LPG tank (gasul)
-Junkshop (buy and sells scrap)
-Store that primarily sells reconditioned and surplus equipments (eg. HMR)
-Barangay Outpost or Police Outpost (small booth only, not barangay
hall or police station)
-FX Terminal (including a tag for their route destination, eg.
crossing, ayala, megamall)
-Newspaper stand (Tabloid / Broadsheet) - some sari-sari store sell
newspaper, bulgar, taliba, most don't.
-Pay Restrooms (distinction between free/public and pay restroom)
-Auction houses/yard like the ones in subic (or are these just
considered buildings?)
-DIY shop that is specialized in electronic/speaker/radio parts, not a
typical hardware (Raon-type of store, more like a radioshack
equivalent, or Kuryente) - or just generalize this as "hardware shop"?
-free-standing betting stations/ pagcor / lotto outlets and alikes
-DVD DVD (or is this supposed to be secret) ;-)
-clear and easy guideline which are considered fastfood and
restaurant. as we don't want too many POI icons on the map.
Eg. If you pay first (at the counter before you eat), then it's
FASTFOOD (eg. mcdo, jollibee, greenwich, and those at regular food
courts, including burger machine and good burger).
If you eat-first-then-pay-the-bill, then we generally put it under
RESTAURANT (especially if there's a waiter).
except for the free-standing semi-permanent fishball/isaw/shawarma
stand/kiosk (and alikes) where you eat first, then pay all the
fishballs you've eaten. Is this classified as fastfood or simply
"snack stand"?
So is "yellow cab" or goldilocks a restaurant or a fastfood?
i believe goldilocks and redribbon falls under "bakeshop"? so
therefore, as long as they sell cake, even if they sell fastfood, the
priority tag must be bakeshop. is this ok? that way, we use lesser and
easier to identify POI icons (for use on mobile devices)
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