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I was present at an informal Local Chapters meeting in Amsterdam during
SOTM with mostly German, Spanish and Italian community members. Eugene
already outlines the many of the main points raised. In addition
I'd emphasize:<br><br>
- It is expensive in to form a legal non-profit (not just in the
Philippines!). It was suggested that the agreement be relaxed
either to say that the intent be non-profit event if registered as an
ordinary company or just to say that if must be in line with the aims of
the Foundation.<br><br>
- If members are not automatically OSMF members, this means that an
existing organisation can be used and essentially a Special Interest
Group is formed. That needs some care, as an example using Linux Users
Group may seem ideal but might turn off some mappers who are not into
Linux or open software.<br><br>
These requests have been broadly accepted and all seem positive for you
guys as it gives more options and may save money. I hope Nick Black, who
is leading the initiative for the Foundation, is keeping in touch with
Maning?<br><br>
My own personal opinion, BTW, is that having a formal organisation rather
then just meeting for great mapping parties :-) is not of great
value to individual mappers, BUT is very useful when asking organisations
to donate data and moderately so for generating publicity statements for
tv and newspapers ... so I kinda hope you do!<br><br>
Mike<br><br>
<br><br>
At 07:47 PM 18/07/2009, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Anyway, the German community has
given some critical feedback to the draft agreement. The thread at the
talk-de mailing list starts here:
<a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2009-July/049445.html">
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2009-July/049445.html</a>
<br><br>
In particular, they are against the reverting of assets to OSM-F when the
relationship is terminated even if the local chapter had paid for those
assets before the agreement (e.g., the
<a href="http://openstreetmap.de">openstreetmap.de</a> domain). They are
also against the consideration that local chapter members are
automatically OSM-F members as well and that the local chapter has to pay
the OSM-F membership fees.<br><br>
<br>
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 12:08 AM, maning sambale
<<a href="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">
emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<dd>If I remember it right, Enthropia commited to help us in setting-up
a<br>
<dd>local chapter. I believe Andre even posted a short survey to
list<br>
<dd>members of what are their views on formalizing OSM-PH.<br><br>
<dd>Most people who answered are in favor of the formalization.
Totor has<br>
<dd>some reservations for a possible admin/management overhead of a
formal<br>
<dd>org.<br><br>
<dd>We want it done but somebody has to do it. :)<br><br>
<dd>@ Andre, can you give us some update on Enthropia's previous
offer?<br>
<dd>Sayang yung opportunity.<br><br>
<br>
<dd>On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Marloue
Pidor<<a href="mailto:murlwe@mail2engineer.com">
murlwe@mail2engineer.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<dd>> This is nice, you have me on this.<br>
<dd>><br>
<dd>> murlwe<br>
<dd>> <-----Original Message-----><br>
<dd>>>From: Eugene Alvin Villar
[<a href="mailto:seav80@gmail.com">seav80@gmail.com</a>]<br>
<dd>>>Sent: 7/18/2009 6:54:52 PM<br>
<dd>>>To:
<a href="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</a>
<br>
<dd>>>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Draft "MoA" between the
OSM-F and any possible<br>
<dd>>>localchapter<br>
<dd>>><br>
<dd>>>Hi guys,<br>
<dd>>><br>
<dd>>>I came across this draft agreement between a local
organization wanting to<br>
<dd>>>officially represent the OSM-F in a local jurisdiction and
the OSM-F:<br>
<dd>>><a href="http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgdmw5gt_7gtj36hhh">
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgdmw5gt_7gtj36hhh</a><br>
<dd>>><br>
<dd>>>What do you guys think?<br>
<dd>>><br>
<dd>>>Regards,<br>
<dd>>>Eugene / seav<br>
<dd>>><br>
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<dd>--<br>
<dd>cheers,<br>
<dd>maning<br>
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