Well, once option 1 is set, people can start tracing. Also, we can then start organizing for an event for this. It would be nice if we can get someone who is familiar with Pangasinan.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:06 PM, maning sambale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">For option 1 somebody at main talk committed to help.<br>
<br>
For option 3, can you join to at least start the tracing once we have<br>
the data? Parang code sprint only this time trace sprint ala google<br>
map maker mapping party.<br>
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On 10/21/09, Eugene Alvin Villar <<a href="mailto:seav80@gmail.com">seav80@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I think a combination of options 1 and 3 is better. Set-up option 1 and have<br>
> option 3 for publicity.<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:23 AM, maning sambale <<a href="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</a><br>
>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Just to add, we are also allowed to give the data to anybody outside<br>
>> OSM who wish to use them. But I propose they should get an approval<br>
>> of the group and not just me for that matter.<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:17 AM, maning sambale<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hi,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Just got a word from DigitalGlobe re: clarification on the license<br>
>> agreement. Here is the reply:<br>
>> > "You have full permission to distribute it as you feel you need to, to<br>
>> > as<br>
>> many people as you need to, as long as when applicable, you credit the<br>
>> imagery to "DigitalGlobe"." Provided we do not sell the imagery, it is<br>
>> completely OK to use the data in OSM. Yay!<br>
>> ><br>
>> > As a preview here's the coverage of data (attached)<br>
>> > quickbird_coverage.png<br>
>> ><br>
>> > An example imagery showing inundated riverbanks post San Roque dam<br>
>> (October 09, 2009)<br>
>> > flooded_banks.png<br>
>> ><br>
>> > The rest of the images are archive (2006) but still very useful.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I have been reviewing Gaza's experience on how they used a similar<br>
>> imagery:<br>
>> ><br>
>> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Palestine_Gaza#Commercial_aerial_photography" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Palestine_Gaza#Commercial_aerial_photography</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > There are several options we can explore in order to share the load on<br>
>> tracing the imagery:<br>
>> > 1. Create a secured non-cacheable WMS - pro: anybody with proper<br>
>> credentials can access the data and use it in josm or merkaartor. con -<br>
>> need<br>
>> a server to host and maintain<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2. Give the actual images to interested volunteers - pro: easy to<br>
>> distribute just provide a download link or send a dvd con: we cannot<br>
>> guarantee that the imagery won't be sold or anything. Just so you know<br>
>> this<br>
>> cost around 2.8 million pesos from a local reseller.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 3. Let's organize a map tracing event - pro: we have another social<br>
>> event to look forward invite LGUs who can use the data. con: logistical<br>
>> preparations<br>
>> ><br>
>> > As some of you know me personally, I would prefer to give out the data<br>
>> > to<br>
>> anyone interested but given the explicit request by DigitalGlobe not to<br>
>> let<br>
>> the data (raw imagery) used for profit, I am somehow hesitant in this<br>
>> case.<br>
>> A good parnership with DigitalGlobe can help is in the future.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Any ideas?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > cheers,<br>
>> > maning<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:06 PM, maning sambale <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > > Yep! Good enough for our purpose.<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > I'm 10% finished with the download (poor PC)! Will post details on<br>
>> > > the data when I'm done. In the meantime we need to discuss how we can<br>
>> > > share the load in extracting the data (covering 700 sq km @ 0.6 meter<br>
>> > > resolution) within the bounds of product license.<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:seav80@gmail.com">seav80@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > >> Is the imagery rectified already?<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, maning sambale <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > >> wrote:<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> That's really the plan. They are aware that we are using it for OSM<br>
>> > >>> to support disaster recovery efforts. Offline tracing is OK but<br>
>> > >>> re-distributing the imagery. Based on experience, is not OK.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> On 10/20/09, George Tujan <<a href="mailto:gtujan@gmail.com">gtujan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > >>> > Can't we just formally ask DigitalGlobe that we will be tracing<br>
>> their<br>
>> > >>> > images<br>
>> > >>> > for OSM?<br>
>> > >>> ><br>
>> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:30 AM, maning sambale<br>
>> > >>> > <<a href="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>> > >>> ><br>
>> > >>> >> Hi,<br>
>> > >>> >><br>
>> > >>> >> DigitalGlobe provided high-res images for some areas affected by<br>
>> > >>> >> Pepeng in Northern Luzon. I am downloading them now. Might take<br>
>> 1<br>
>> > >>> >> full day (maybe more) to finish.<br>
>> > >>> >> I would like to share them to the group so that they can help<br>
>> tracing<br>
>> > >>> >> the roads. However, I don't think DigitalGlobe allows for public<br>
>> > >>> >> access of the images. Any suggestion how we can proceed?<br>
>> > >>> >><br>
>> > >>> >> Maybe a satellite tracing party? @ Mikel, can you share your<br>
>> > >>> >> experience with Gaza? AFAIK, you have access to highres images<br>
>> > >>> >> in<br>
>> the<br>
>> > >>> >> area but a similar non-public release of the images ws part of<br>
>> > >>> >> the<br>
>> > >>> >> agreement?<br>
>> > >>> >><br>
>> > >>> >><br>
>> > >>> >> --<br>
>> > >>> >> cheers,<br>
>> > >>> >> maning<br>
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>> > >>> maning<br>
>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------<br>
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>> > > cheers,<br>
>> > > maning<br>
>> > > ------------------------------------------------------<br>
>> > > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<br>
>> > > wiki: <a href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/" target="_blank">http://esambale.wikispaces.com/</a><br>
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>> > maning<br>
>> > ------------------------------------------------------<br>
>> > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<br>
>> > wiki: <a href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/" target="_blank">http://esambale.wikispaces.com/</a><br>
>> > blog: <a href="http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/</a><br>
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>> --<br>
>> cheers,<br>
>> maning<br>
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>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<br>
>> wiki: <a href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/" target="_blank">http://esambale.wikispaces.com/</a><br>
>> blog: <a href="http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/</a><br>
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