<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>For me, accuracy is important in OSM but for me. OSM is a free and sharing tool which anyone can update errors, add or even delete until such time we can correct it. </DIV>
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<DIV>I agree for the option 2. thats why OSM created for us.. PRO or amateur... </DIV>
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<DIV>thanks.</DIV>
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<DIV>,noel<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 11/15/09, talk-ph-request@openstreetmap.org <I><talk-ph-request@openstreetmap.org></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: talk-ph-request@openstreetmap.org <talk-ph-request@openstreetmap.org><BR>Subject: talk-ph Digest, Vol 16, Issue 3<BR>To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org<BR>Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 4:48 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>Send talk-ph mailing list submissions to<BR> <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A><BR><BR>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR> <A href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph" target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph</A><BR>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR> <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph-request@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph-request@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph-request@openstreetmap.org</A><BR><BR>You can reach the person managing the list at<BR> <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph-owner@openstreetmap.org"
ymailto="mailto:talk-ph-owner@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph-owner@openstreetmap.org</A><BR><BR>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>than "Re: Contents of talk-ph digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR> 1. OSM and Mapping Pros (Arnel Domag)<BR> 2. Re: best practice for mapping landuse=farm (maning sambale)<BR> 3. Re: OSM and Mapping Pros (maning sambale)<BR> 4. Re: best practice for mapping landuse=farm (Eugene Alvin Villar)<BR> 5. Re: best practice for mapping landuse=farm (maning sambale)<BR> 6. Fwd: [OSM-talk] more accurate open-source gps hardware<BR> (maning sambale)<BR> 7. Fwd: Announcing the OSM-PH GPS Map release 20091114<BR> (maning sambale)<BR> 8. Re: Fwd: [OSM-talk] more accurate open-source gps hardware<BR>
(maning sambale)<BR> 9. Re: Fwd: [OSM-talk] more accurate open-source gps hardware<BR> (Marloue Pidor)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:17:37 -0800 (PST)<BR>From: Arnel Domag <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nth_gg@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:nth_gg@yahoo.com">nth_gg@yahoo.com</A>><BR>Subject: [talk-ph] OSM and Mapping Pros<BR>To: osm-ph <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A>><BR>Message-ID: <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=979517.32634.qm@web113804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:979517.32634.qm@web113804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com">979517.32634.qm@web113804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR>I really don't
understand why some are insisting that I wanted survey grade accuracy at the very start of the series of my posts. Please don't teach me on how OSM works. I have been in in CAD/Civil/Survey/Mapping/GIS business for more than 20 years already. I do understand that OSM sustainability will be at stake when free differential correction becomes available in the Philippines. This is not my own opinion. This is from Computer Science standpoint.<BR><BR>I am only suggesting for Mapping Pros to come in in order to sustain OSM. To those who are turned off of my suggestion according to Eugene, I am asking of what you're after in OSM. If sustainability is a concern of yours, then what path are you going to take?<BR><BR>Come on guys.<BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <A href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/attachments/20091112/d633e1e6/attachment-0001.htm"
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text/plain; charset=UTF-8<BR><BR>Thanks ian. I'll do option 2.<BR><BR>On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:48 PM, ian lopez <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ian_lopez_1115@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:ian_lopez_1115@yahoo.com">ian_lopez_1115@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>> I prefer option two as well, since we may end up turning an unsuspecting place (specifically an obviously non-farm area, see here: <A href="http://osm.org/go/4zhFrawyw-" target=_blank>http://osm.org/go/4zhFrawyw-</A> ) into farmland. And regarding option 2's cons, I have only this to say: May tiyaga, may nilaga (or something like that).<BR>><BR>> ---<BR>> Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me.<BR>> Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you?<BR>> Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it.<BR>> -----<BR>> <A href="http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/"
target=_blank>http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/</A><BR>><BR>><BR>> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, maning sambale <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>> From: maning sambale <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</A>><BR>> Subject: [talk-ph] best practice for mapping landuse=farm<BR>> To: "osm-ph" <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A>><BR>> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:58 PM<BR>><BR>> Hi,<BR>><BR>> I am currently tracing farms in Bulacan from the spot5 imagery.? The<BR>> current practice I do following this example<BR>> (<A
href="http://osm.org/go/4zhBwibC" target=_blank>http://osm.org/go/4zhBwibC</A>) is to map as much as possible separate<BR>> fields subdivided by "pilapils", irrigation canals and hedgerows.? But<BR>> this gets to be a daunting task over time.<BR>> I am reading the discussion over the talk page (<BR>> <A href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:landuse%3Dfarm" target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:landuse%3Dfarm</A> ) and the<BR>> proposed approaches are:<BR>> ? ? ???1. Draw a polygon enclosing an entire island, like Great<BR>> Britain, or even a subcontinent, like Europe; tag it as farmland; and<BR>> then let everything else sit on top of that. Pro: least effort for<BR>> mappers. Con: no way to mark unvisited land; risks telling lies.<BR>> ? ? ???2. Draw every field or farm separately, as it gets surveyed,<BR>> and admit that we don't know about the rest. Pro: the most honest,<BR>>
accountable solution. Con: time-consuming, lots of data.<BR>><BR>> Which one should we adopt? I'm inclined to follow option 2.<BR>><BR>> --<BR>> cheers,<BR>> maning<BR>> ------------------------------------------------------<BR>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<BR>> wiki: <A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/</A><BR>> blog: <A href="http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/" target=_blank>http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/</A><BR>> ------------------------------------------------------<BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> talk-ph mailing list<BR>> <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>> <A href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph"
target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph</A><BR>><BR><BR><BR><BR>--<BR>cheers,<BR>maning<BR>------------------------------------------------------<BR>"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<BR>wiki: <A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/</A><BR>blog: <A href="http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/" target=_blank>http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/</A><BR>------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:31:07 +0800<BR>From: maning sambale <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OSM and Mapping Pros<BR>To: osm-ph <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org"
ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A>><BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=f902f9840911120331j38d1ea5dr275edfd04e209c16@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:f902f9840911120331j38d1ea5dr275edfd04e209c16@mail.gmail.com">f902f9840911120331j38d1ea5dr275edfd04e209c16@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<BR><BR>arnel,<BR><BR>> I do understand that OSM sustainability will be at stake when free differential correction becomes available in the Philippines.<BR>When dgps becomes available, then surely we will use it. European<BR>OSMers are now using egnos to update their own patch in OSM.<BR><BR>For the meantime, we will use whatever tools (mostly free) that are<BR>available. If somebody gives me 20K PHP, I can rent a DGPS unit (for<BR>a week) and bike around my own OSM patch to make it more accurate.<BR><BR>> If sustainability
is a concern of yours, then what path are you going to take?<BR>Let me share some of my thoughts re:sustainability vis-a-vis OSM principles.<BR>1. OSM data gets better by iteration - that's the basic principle of<BR>a wiki. If the data right now is inaccurate, we can edit it again and<BR>again until it gets better and better.<BR><BR>2. No data or edit is immutable - again a very basic wiki principle.<BR>If someone added data, anyone can correct, improve, delete them.<BR><BR>Given the above principle, I'm sure OSM is more sustainable than other<BR>mapping project.<BR><BR>> Come on guys.<BR>Yes, I think we are beyond the "turned-off" phase now. We would love<BR>to hear what you can contribute here being a mapping pro for 20 years.<BR><BR>Welcome!<BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> talk-ph mailing list<BR>> <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org"
ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>> <A href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph" target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph</A><BR>><BR><BR><BR><BR>--<BR>cheers,<BR>maning<BR>------------------------------------------------------<BR>"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<BR>wiki: <A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/</A><BR>blog: <A href="http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/" target=_blank>http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/</A><BR>------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 4<BR>Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:08:42 +0800<BR>From: Eugene Alvin Villar <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=seav80@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:seav80@gmail.com">seav80@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] best practice for mapping
landuse=farm<BR>To: maning sambale <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</A>><BR>Cc: osm-ph <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A>><BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=a07a5a700911120708p27137c43lbf7d9ca630656e28@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:a07a5a700911120708p27137c43lbf7d9ca630656e28@mail.gmail.com">a07a5a700911120708p27137c43lbf7d9ca630656e28@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>I think we should mark entire farms as one polygon as much as possible and<BR>not separate individual "paddies" as their own polygons. The dirt paths and<BR>irrigation canals are still part of the farm, right?<BR><BR>On Wed, Nov 11,
2009 at 8:58 PM, maning sambale<BR><<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</A>>wrote:<BR><BR>> Hi,<BR>><BR>> I am currently tracing farms in Bulacan from the spot5 imagery. The<BR>> current practice I do following this example<BR>> (<A href="http://osm.org/go/4zhBwibC" target=_blank>http://osm.org/go/4zhBwibC</A>) is to map as much as possible separate<BR>> fields subdivided by "pilapils", irrigation canals and hedgerows. But<BR>> this gets to be a daunting task over time.<BR>> I am reading the discussion over the talk page (<BR>> <A href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:landuse%3Dfarm" target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:landuse%3Dfarm</A> ) and the<BR>> proposed approaches are:<BR>> 1. Draw a polygon enclosing an entire
island, like Great<BR>> Britain, or even a subcontinent, like Europe; tag it as farmland; and<BR>> then let everything else sit on top of that. Pro: least effort for<BR>> mappers. Con: no way to mark unvisited land; risks telling lies.<BR>> 2. Draw every field or farm separately, as it gets surveyed,<BR>> and admit that we don't know about the rest. Pro: the most honest,<BR>> accountable solution. Con: time-consuming, lots of data.<BR>><BR>> Which one should we adopt? I'm inclined to follow option 2.<BR>><BR>> --<BR>> cheers,<BR>> maning<BR>> ------------------------------------------------------<BR>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<BR>> wiki: <A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/</A><BR>> blog: <A href="http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/" target=_blank>http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/</A><BR>>
------------------------------------------------------<BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> talk-ph mailing list<BR>> <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>> <A href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph" target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph</A><BR>><BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR><A href="http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/" target=_blank>http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com</A><BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <A href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/attachments/20091112/88b4e64d/attachment-0001.htm" target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/attachments/20091112/88b4e64d/attachment-0001.htm</A> <BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 5<BR>Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:34:10
+0800<BR>From: maning sambale <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] best practice for mapping landuse=farm<BR>To: osm-ph <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A>><BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=f902f9840911121534k3249575do55eeaf0eb774abb@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:f902f9840911121534k3249575do55eeaf0eb774abb@mail.gmail.com">f902f9840911121534k3249575do55eeaf0eb774abb@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<BR><BR>On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=seav80@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:seav80@gmail.com">seav80@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> I think we should mark entire farms as one polygon as much as possible and<BR>> not separate individual "paddies" as their own polygons. The dirt paths and<BR>> irrigation canals are still part of the farm, right?<BR>No I'm not marking individual paddies. Maybe my message was a bit confusing.<BR>The SPOT5 has a pix res of 10 meters. I usually map a farm polygon<BR>when there is obvious subdivision between adjacent farms like large<BR>irrigation canals. This is usually visible in the image at around 4-5<BR>pixels (roughly 40-50 meters). The gap size seems sensible enough.<BR><BR>Whenever possible, I am also excluding residential areas around the farms.<BR><BR>Is this OK?<BR><BR>Sorry I can't provide a visual example (the data is on another<BR>machine) and I haven't added anything in the OSM database just
yet.<BR><BR><BR><BR>--<BR>cheers,<BR>maning<BR>------------------------------------------------------<BR>"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<BR>wiki: <A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/</A><BR>blog: <A href="http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/" target=_blank>http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/</A><BR>------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 6<BR>Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:12:00 +0800<BR>From: maning sambale <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] more accurate open-source gps<BR> hardware<BR>To: osm-ph <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org"
ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A>><BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=f902f9840911140012q57fd8e4w1ee19da4af37414@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:f902f9840911140012q57fd8e4w1ee19da4af37414@mail.gmail.com">f902f9840911140012q57fd8e4w1ee19da4af37414@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<BR><BR>@ murlwe, something you may want to tinker with :)<BR><BR><BR>---------- Forwarded message ----------<BR>From: Alex S. <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=maps@swavely.com" ymailto="mailto:maps@swavely.com">maps@swavely.com</A>><BR>Date: Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:47 AM<BR>Subject: [OSM-talk] more accurate open-source gps hardware<BR>To: <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</A><BR><BR><BR><A
href="http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/11/diy_real_time_kinematic_gps.html" target=_blank>http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/11/diy_real_time_kinematic_gps.html</A><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>talk mailing list<BR><A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</A><BR><A href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk" target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</A><BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>cheers,<BR>maning<BR>------------------------------------------------------<BR>"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<BR>wiki: <A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/</A><BR>blog: <A href="http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/"
target=_blank>http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/</A><BR>------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 7<BR>Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:44:41 +0800<BR>From: maning sambale <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: [talk-ph] Fwd: Announcing the OSM-PH GPS Map release 20091114<BR>To: osm-ph <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A>><BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=f902f9840911140544l41ced269q2167b6fdd3a08d9c@mail.gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:f902f9840911140544l41ced269q2167b6fdd3a08d9c@mail.gmail.com">f902f9840911140544l41ced269q2167b6fdd3a08d9c@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<BR><BR>hi,<BR><BR>We are pleased to announce the new release (20091114) of the OSM-PH<BR>Garmin GPS Map. ?This release is another important milestone for the<BR>OSM-PH Garmin GPS Map project.<BR><BR>This the third release who graduated from our new release cycle. ?The<BR>general release cycle is every two months (1 month for pre-release<BR>testing and 1 month for the regular release). Thanks to all those who<BR>tested and provided feedback.<BR><BR>What's new in this release<BR>?2009-11-14<BR>?- data as of 20091114, thanks to all the 350 contributors<BR>?- 45,000 ++ kilometers of roads<BR>?- sea polygon<BR>?- beta of address search<BR>?- changed codes for some POIs to enable search<BR>?- new map style added from Rally<BR>?- compiled with mkgmap version
1334<BR><BR><BR>Known bugs:<BR>?- Full address search may not work as expected<BR>?- Some islands are "flooded" (coastline data issue)<BR>?- POI icons not visible using 3D mode in some units<BR>?- installer available only for MapSource<BR><BR>See my blog for a visual log of this release:<BR><A href="http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/2009/11/14/new-osm-ph-garmin-map-release-nov-2009/" target=_blank>http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/2009/11/14/new-osm-ph-garmin-map-release-nov-2009/</A><BR><BR>Before installing the new maps, please remove the previous OSM-PH<BR>Garmin GPS Map following the instructions here:<BR><A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/remove_mapsource_mapset" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/remove_mapsource_mapset</A><BR><BR>To download the maps, go here:<BR><BR><A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/osmphil_garmin" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/osmphil_garmin</A><BR><BR>Other experimental GPS maps are also
available:<BR><A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/osmphil_garmin#toc5" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/osmphil_garmin#toc5</A><BR><BR>As usual for data problems, go fix it at:<BR><A href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/" target=_blank>http://www.openstreetmap.org</A>.<BR><BR>For bug reports, post a message either at the wiki discussions page:<BR><A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/message/list/home" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/message/list/home</A><BR><BR>Or via our svn/trac site:<BR><A href="https://free2.projectlocker.com/maning/osm_ph_garmin_map/trac/wiki" target=_blank>https://free2.projectlocker.com/maning/osm_ph_garmin_map/trac/wiki</A><BR><BR>You need to login first, use this generic account.<BR>username: osmphgps AT gmail DOT com<BR>password: osmphgps<BR><BR>Enjoy!<BR><BR>cheers,<BR><BR>maning<BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>cheers,<BR>maning<BR>------------------------------------------------------<BR>"Freedom is still
the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<BR>wiki: <A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/</A><BR>blog: <A href="http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/" target=_blank>http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/</A><BR>------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 8<BR>Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:15:44 +0800<BR>From: maning sambale <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] more accurate open-source gps<BR> hardware<BR>To: George Tujan <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gtujan@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:gtujan@gmail.com">gtujan@gmail.com</A>>, osm-ph<BR> <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org"
ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A>><BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=f902f9840911150415y56668ddcob067568413345972@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:f902f9840911150415y56668ddcob067568413345972@mail.gmail.com">f902f9840911150415y56668ddcob067568413345972@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<BR><BR>If someone (I'm thinking of you guys at neuraltech) can do a similar<BR>prototype, I can arrange a hookup to a GPS base station.<BR><BR>On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 5:23 PM, George Tujan <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gtujan@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:gtujan@gmail.com">gtujan@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> very interesting, thanks for the link maning.<BR>> btw murlwe is in manila.<BR>><BR>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:12 PM, maning sambale <<A
href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</A>><BR>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> @ murlwe, something you may want to tinker with :)<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<BR>>> From: Alex S. <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=maps@swavely.com" ymailto="mailto:maps@swavely.com">maps@swavely.com</A>><BR>>> Date: Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:47 AM<BR>>> Subject: [OSM-talk] more accurate open-source gps hardware<BR>>> To: <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> <A href="http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/11/diy_real_time_kinematic_gps.html"
target=_blank>http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/11/diy_real_time_kinematic_gps.html</A><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> talk mailing list<BR>>> <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>>> <A href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk" target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</A><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> --<BR>>> cheers,<BR>>> maning<BR>>> ------------------------------------------------------<BR>>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<BR>>> wiki: <A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/</A><BR>>> blog: <A href="http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/" target=_blank>http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/</A><BR>>>
------------------------------------------------------<BR>>><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> talk-ph mailing list<BR>>> <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>>> <A href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph" target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph</A><BR>><BR>><BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>cheers,<BR>maning<BR>------------------------------------------------------<BR>"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<BR>wiki: <A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/</A><BR>blog: <A href="http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/" target=_blank>http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/</A><BR>------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message:
9<BR>Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:48:30 -0800<BR>From: "Marloue Pidor" <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=murlwe@mail2Engineer.com" ymailto="mailto:murlwe@mail2Engineer.com">murlwe@mail2Engineer.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] more accurate open-source gps<BR> hardware<BR>To: <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</A>><BR>Cc: <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>Message-ID: <02bc01ca6656$84388e40$<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=026a010a@mail2world.com" ymailto="mailto:026a010a@mail2world.com">026a010a@mail2world.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>@maning, I already created prototypes similar to
that.<BR><BR>Do you need a GPS that can be hooked to your pc via USB/Serial port? We<BR>can design something for you.<BR><BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR><BR>murlwe<BR><-----Original Message-----> <BR>>From: maning sambale [<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</A>]<BR>>Sent: 11/15/2009 8:15:44 PM<BR>>To: <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gtujan@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:gtujan@gmail.com">gtujan@gmail.com</A>;<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] more accurate open-source gps<BR>hardware<BR>><BR>>If someone (I'm thinking of you guys at neuraltech) can do a similar<BR>>prototype, I can arrange a hookup to a GPS base station.<BR>><BR>>On Sun,
Nov 15, 2009 at 5:23 PM, George Tujan <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gtujan@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:gtujan@gmail.com">gtujan@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>> very interesting, thanks for the link maning.<BR>>> btw murlwe is in manila.<BR>>><BR>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:12 PM, maning sambale<BR>><<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</A>><BR>>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>> @ murlwe, something you may want to tinker with :)<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<BR>>>> From: Alex S. <<A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=maps@swavely.com" ymailto="mailto:maps@swavely.com">maps@swavely.com</A>><BR>>>> Date: Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:47 AM<BR>>>> Subject: [OSM-talk] more
accurate open-source gps hardware<BR>>>> To: <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR><A href="http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/11/diy_real_time_kinematic_gps.htm" target=_blank>http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/11/diy_real_time_kinematic_gps.htm</A><BR>l<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>> talk mailing list<BR>>>> <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>>>> <A href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk" target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk</A><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> --<BR>>>> cheers,<BR>>>>
maning<BR>>>> ------------------------------------------------------<BR>>>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<BR>>>> wiki: <A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/</A><BR>>>> blog: <A href="http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/" target=_blank>http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/</A><BR>>>> ------------------------------------------------------<BR>>>><BR>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>> talk-ph mailing list<BR>>>> <A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>>>> <A href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph" target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph</A><BR>>><BR>>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>--
<BR>>cheers,<BR>>maning<BR>>------------------------------------------------------<BR>>"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<BR>>wiki: <A href="http://esambale.wikispaces.com/" target=_blank>http://esambale.wikispaces.com/</A><BR>>blog: <A href="http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/" target=_blank>http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/</A><BR>>------------------------------------------------------<BR>><BR>>_______________________________________________<BR>>talk-ph mailing list<BR>><A href="http://us.mc656.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>><A href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph" target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph</A><BR>>.<BR>> <BR><BR><BR><span id=m2wTl><p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"
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