<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Hi All,<br><br><span>I read this last night - <a target="_blank" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing#City">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing#City</a></span><br><br>Looks like the quickest solution is to use the GADM country database, however we are constrained to do so because:<br><br>"This dataset is freely available for academic and other non-commercial
use. Redistribution, or commercial use, is not allowed without prior
permission."<br><br>I do not know what is their interpretation of the OSM effort, but I am sure OSM is non-commercial, however, once we load the GADM database into OSM, we are technically redistributing it. But then it says "without prior permission".<br><br>I think Maning can ask permission from GADM?<br><br>Have anyone heard of any information if another country is using the GADM database on OSM?<br><br>Have a nice day guys!<br><br>Jing<br><br><br><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Jing Iya <jing_iya@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 27, 2010 14:20:05<br><b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [talk-ph] City Database<br></font><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>Thanks Maning,<br><br>Yes, the lot address is something we cannot do unfortunately. I will start studying the city database, hope I can do something about it.<br><br>For the time being, I will concentrate on the City/Municipality since it is more important than the Barangay.<br><br>Jing<br><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> osm-ph <talk-ph@openstreetmap.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:59:58<br><b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [talk-ph] City Database<br></font><br>Glad someone will take on the challenge!<br><br>For a brief history, all cities/towns were initially imported from the<br>GNS data 2 years ago.<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import</a><br><br>The location is not very accurate. What is needed is to locate the<br>node ideally on the municipal hall or within the city center or<br>poblacion. You can easily do this even with landsat overlay. I<br>believe user:axk did this for some islands in Visayas.<br><br>We use the place tag to denote location:<br><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place</a><br><br>We adopted the following practice for PH:<br>place=city "for cities"
<br>place=town
"for towns/municipalities"<br>place=village ANDplace:ph=barangay "for barangay" <br>place=hamlet "for villages and subdivisions"<br><br>Please search the talk-ph list archives for similar discussions as well.<br><br>There's also a rule for mapping admin boundaries:<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Mapping_conventions#Administrative_boundaries">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Mapping_conventions#Administrative_boundaries</a><br><br>This will hopefully improve location search, however, the current<br>admin boundaries are incomplete even at the city/municipality level.<br><br>As for adding city/municipality for each POI we use the Karlsruhe Schema:<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address</a><br><br>Please also note that
we have a lot address
problems in the country.<br>See this address variations:<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Philippine_addressing#Addressing_variations">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Philippine_addressing#Addressing_variations</a><br><br>Hope that helps. Good luck!<br>Good luck!<br><br><br><br>On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Jing Iya <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jing_iya@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jing_iya@yahoo.com">jing_iya@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Hello All,<br>><br>> Since you are discussing how to improve the road tagging in OSM Phil., Id<br>> like to ask too, how can we improve the City/Municipality database specially<br>> the one we are using in Garmin GPS. If you will notice, the city or<br>> municipality database is quite confusing and should I say "dirty".<br>><br>> I am willing to give my time and help
clean this up if I would be given the<br>>
chance to learn how to group the roads and POIs into the correct City or<br>> Municipality.<br>><br>> Regards,<br>><br>> Jing<br>><br>><br>><br>> ________________________________<br>> Get your new Email address!<br>> Grab the Email name you've always wanted before someone else does!<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> talk-ph mailing list<br>> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</a><br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph</a><br>><br>><br><br><br><br>-- <br>cheers,<br>maning<br>------------------------------------------------------<br>"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden<br>wiki: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
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