<font color="#003300"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Hi, everyone.</font></font><div><font color="#003300"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div><font color="#003300"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Thank you for your comments. I do appreciate them all, and I respect you all for giving them freely. I will, of course, follow OSM guidelines to the letter, and will in no way jeopardize all of the hard work that has been done before my very recent arrival. I am, like many, simply frustrated at how copyright is used at a weapon and how it does, in fact, stifle creativity and advancements in many areas. You are all aware of this, of course.</font></font></div>
<div><font color="#003300"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div><font color="#003300"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Best to you all,</font></font></div><div><font color="#003300"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Craig.<br>
</font></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Totor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:totor_osm@yahoo.com">totor_osm@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit">Hi Craig,<br><br>I saw this question several times here and there and can not agree completely.<br><br>I think that Facts/Locations can not be copyrighted indeed, but maps can. <br>
<br>It takes quite a lot of work to represent the locations of items accurately on maps.<br>It's much easier to copy from an existing map. (Why would some OSM mappers be tempted if this was not the case?) So it seems reasonable to me to protect this work by a copyright.<br>
When you copy from a map, even small portions, you don't copy facts, but a more or less faithful representation someone else made.<br><br>If you copy Google maps, you even copying "someone's imagination" ! <br>
Here Google has several non existing roads on the map :<br><a href="http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17&lat=10.3468&lon=123.91864&layers=B00000TFFFFF" target="_blank">http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17&lat=10.3468&lon=123.91864&layers=B00000TFFFFF</a><br>
Even comparing just the location should not
be done, since the map seems offset...<br><br>The above is also true for the satellite images (although maybe less obviously). Several years ago, I saw a duplicate parallel road on the border of stitched images (Each of them ending in a blurry house on opposite sides at some distance). I was unable to find it now, but I'm sure you'll be able to find some artifacts if you look for them.<br>
<br>Cheers,<br><br>Totor<br><br><br><br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 5/16/10, Craig </b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px"><br>From: Craig <br>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Bacolod is still a big problem<br>
To: "Andre Marcelo-Tanner" <br>Cc: <a href="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</a><br>Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 4:09 AM<br><br><div><div class="im"><font color="#003300"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Maybe there is something fundamental that I don't get, but, let me ask a question, please. How is it possible that a
location of a road or building or anything can be copyrighted? I understand not copying entire maps, etc., from a source and then claiming it as your own is contrary to copyright, but "facts", and a road location is a fact, not something created from someone's imagination.<br>
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