<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>As requested.<br><br>Have done a partial trace. Not sure it is good. The clover leaf <br>look boxy. <br><br>Some data:<br>Garmin 255.<br>device set to one-second trace. mode: vehicle.<br><br>From Mindanao Avenue through the new tunnel. Approaching Nlex. Ooops. wrong way. U-turn<br>Enter toll gate : P36. up NLex. exit Valenzuela after 1K.<br>turn left and left. enter tollgate : pay P36 again. keeping right and do the clover leaf and back the way we came.<br><br>Thinking back, I think all four clover leafs can be done in one pass.<br><br>jayzee<br><br><br><br><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font
face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> OSM-PH <talk-ph@openstreetmap.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sat, June 12, 2010 12:39:28 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [talk-ph] Mindanao Avenue to NLEX<br></font><br><span>
Hmmm. This cloverleaf and the link road is conspicuously missing. Though the under-construction cross-street is there at NLEX. <a target="_blank" href="http://osm.org/go/4zhUs9FV">http://osm.org/go/4zhUs9FV</a>--</span><br><br><span>Even Google Map Maker doesn't have them. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=14.691708,121.013675&spn=0.020466,0.038881&z=15">http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=14.691708,121.013675&spn=0.020466,0.038881&z=15</a></span><br>
<br>Since it just opened recently, I doubt that <a target="_blank" href="http://Roadguide.PH">Roadguide.PH</a> has it already. Nokia OVI Maps don't have it too. As well as <a target="_blank" href="http://Mapcentral.ph">Mapcentral.ph</a>.<br><br>So we have the prime opportunity to beat other public maps in including this road! :-D<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:34 PM, ianlopez <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ian_lopez_1115@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ian_lopez_1115@yahoo.com">ian_lopez_1115@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top"><span>The nearest mapper in the area is BlueArrow ( <a target="_blank" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/BlueArrow">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/BlueArrow</a> ). Maybe he can map/verify the said area.</span><br>
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<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 6/11/10, tutubi <i><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tutubi@backpackingphilippines.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tutubi@backpackingphilippines.com">tutubi@backpackingphilippines.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">
<br>From: tutubi <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tutubi@backpackingphilippines.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tutubi@backpackingphilippines.com">tutubi@backpackingphilippines.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Mindanao Avenue to NLEX<br>To: "eric pareja" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:eric.pareja@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:eric.pareja@gmail.com">eric.pareja@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: "talk-ph" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 7:16 PM<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div>hi Eric,<br><br>
yes, i've heard of all those "praise
releases" but there's really the skeptic in me.<br>LRT Munoz station was bannered to be finished last January, then moved to March 25, then a few weeks later there's another "praise release" by GMA minions that the line's ok from baclaran to North Avenue and yet the station's not yet finished up to now and causing horrendous traffic even at 12mn on a weekend<br>
<br>anyway, when i passed by Mindanao avenue there were many vehicles coming out of the tunnel which is is really unusual if it's still closed. Though Balintawak is just 5 minutes away from me (or much more during heavy traffic of course), this link will surely decongest the balintawak tollway. Mindanao avenue is a motorist's dream road, wide and not much traffic...unlike almost every other road there is in the metro<br>
<br>I don't have immediate plans of driving/going up north so I still can't verify and update our map<br><br>cheers!<br><br>
---<br>I explore, therefore I blog.<br><br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.backpackingphilippines.com">http://www.backpackingphilippines.com</a></span><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:16 PM, eric pareja <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://mc/compose?to=eric.pareja@gmail.com">eric.pareja@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">There are signs along NLEX southbound that indicate that the Mindanao<br>
Ave. link is now open. I was unable to try it but here are news<br>
reports that it is operational (well, inaugurated.). There was talk<br>
among motorists on the way back to Metro Manila about it being open,<br>
but no verified anecdotes.<br>
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<a target="_blank" href="http://www.mb.com.ph/node/260528">http://www.mb.com.ph/node/260528</a></span><br><span>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/nlexmindanao-ave-road-now-open-to-motorists">http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/nlexmindanao-ave-road-now-open-to-motorists</a></span><br><span>
<a target="_blank" href="http://balita.ph/2010/06/05/pgma-inaugurates-p2-1-b-nlex-mindanao-avenue-link/">http://balita.ph/2010/06/05/pgma-inaugurates-p2-1-b-nlex-mindanao-avenue-link/</a></span><br>
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