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1. Re: [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress (Eugene Alvin Villar)<br>
2. digitalGlobe imagery - haiyan (Erwin Olario)<br>
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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 03:46:38 +0800<br>
From: Eugene Alvin Villar <<a href="mailto:seav80@gmail.com">seav80@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress<br>
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Hello everyone,<br>
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Here are several additional HOT tasks:<br>
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<a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/342" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/342</a> - Bantayan Island<br>
<a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/343" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/343</a> - Camotes Islands<br>
<a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/344" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/344</a> - Roxas City and surroundings<br>
<a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/345" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/345</a> - northern Negros Occidental<br>
<a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/346" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/346</a> - Roxas City - Kalibo - northernmost tip of<br>
Iloilo<br>
<a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/347" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/347</a> - northern Cebu<br>
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If you know of any other areas that are affected by the typhoon and has<br>
Bing satellite imagery, please do reply. For instance, I have suggested<br>
that a task be created for Coron, Palawan.<br>
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <<a href="mailto:seav80@gmail.com">seav80@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
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> Thank you to everyone who has helped in mapping the affected areas.<br>
><br>
> Here are some statistics taken from OSMstats:<br>
> <a href="http://osmstats.altogetherlost.com/index.php?item=countries&country=Philippines" target="_blank">http://osmstats.altogetherlost.com/index.php?item=countries&country=Philippines</a><br>
><br>
> There have been about 120,000 nodes that have been added in the<br>
> Philippines in the past 2 days. Though I don't have the exact numbers, that<br>
> probably translates to around 20,000 buildings. The rest would be new<br>
> roads, rivers, landuses, and improved coastlines.<br>
><br>
> There have been at least 60 mappers editing in the Philippines in the last<br>
> 2 days. The previous spike in the number of editors was in mid-October<br>
> after the 7.2 earthquake that hit Bohol (<a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/326" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/326</a>).<br>
><br>
><br>
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> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <<a href="mailto:seav80@gmail.com">seav80@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hello everyone,<br>
>><br>
>> There are 2 additional HOT Tasks that have been created:<br>
>><br>
>> 1. <a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339</a> - Mapping villages in Samar and Leyte<br>
>> (just the residential areas and roads, no need for buildings)<br>
>><br>
>> 2. <a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/340" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/340</a> - Mapping in detail selected areas<br>
>> that are known to have been highly affected by the typhoon<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Andrew Buck <<a href="mailto:andrew.r.buck@gmail.com">andrew.r.buck@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>><br>
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>>> I agree that wider coverage will be needed and I had hoped that by now<br>
>>> we would have a better indication of where to map as well. My reason<br>
>>> for staying with Tacloban for so long was largely due to lack of<br>
>>> knowing where else to shift focus to (although I did allude to this a<br>
>>> bit by suggesting the other villages on the coast northeast of<br>
>>> Tacloban), more importantly due to a second fact...<br>
>>><br>
>>> When we map an area, it is only really useful for us to map areas that<br>
>>> the aid organizations we work with will be responding to. For the aid<br>
>>> organizations that don't know about, or don't know how to use, our<br>
>>> map; then no matter how good the coverage is, it doesn't help them.<br>
>>> This is the main reason I chose to focus on Tacloban. It is badly hit<br>
>>> (as were many other places as you rightly point out) but it is also a<br>
>>> provincial capital, and it is the largest town in the immediate area.<br>
>>> Because of this I figured that most of the international response<br>
>>> would likely be directed there, and since it is mostly the<br>
>>> international orgs that we tend to work with I figured the map data<br>
>>> would be most useful there.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Now, that being said I want to make it clear that the explanation<br>
>>> above is not necessarily an argument for continuing to focus entirely<br>
>>> on Tacloban, just merely an explanation of why I hadn't directed<br>
>>> people elsewhere yet. I agree that we will need to spread out our<br>
>>> efforts at some point, and that point may be approaching, the question<br>
>>> is where to focus next. As I mentioned previously, I think the<br>
>>> villages along the coast to the northeast will be hard hit (and due to<br>
>>> their proximity to Tacloban will likely receive international aid).<br>
>>> There are also villages along the coast to the south of Tacloban that<br>
>>> will have been hit hard as well since the eye passed directly over<br>
>>> them. The eye track will likely have done the most damage, or the<br>
>>> area to the north of the eye track since the storm rotates<br>
>>> counterclockwise as it moves westward.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If anyone has better suggestions of where to spread out to I am<br>
>>> certainly open to them. Like I said I am not saying we need to stay<br>
>>> at Tacloban (and the surrounding area) just explaining why I was<br>
>>> continuing focus there. I know the storm affected a lot to the west<br>
>>> as well but I figured this would be trickier to map for two reasons.<br>
>>> 1) it is a larger area with not such and obvious target for<br>
>>> international aid, and 2) the wind speeds were lower to the west due<br>
>>> to the storm being disrupted by the islands. As for the idea of<br>
>>> mapping the area affected by the earthquake to the south, my<br>
>>> understanding (and this could be wrong) was that most of what we could<br>
>>> do remotely has already been done when the earthquake hit.<br>
>>><br>
>>> So that is all of my reasoning at the current time for our current<br>
>>> focus. I hope to begin hearing more concrete info from aid orgs today<br>
>>> so I might redirect people when I hear from them, but for now my<br>
>>> advice would be to try to continue with Tacloban (especially the low<br>
>>> lying areas) and simultaneously spread out into the surrounding<br>
>>> villages until/unless we get something concrete from an aid org.<br>
>>><br>
>>> - -AndrewBuck<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 11/09/2013 05:25 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:<br>
>>> > Hi,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > According to Al Jazeera, the death toll could be very high, sadly.<br>
>>> > And several millions of people have been affected.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I'd like to remind that an often-mentioned weakness of OSM is the<br>
>>> > uneven quality of the coverage, and that it is not because you have<br>
>>> > a hammer that everything is a nail.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > So, while Tacloban was indeed hit very badly, and a detailed<br>
>>> > building map there is undoubtedly useful, it might also be useful<br>
>>> > if some of the mappers who wish to contribute took a broader view,<br>
>>> > to map, for example, some of the roads and villages that are<br>
>>> > visible on (sometimes recent) high resolution Bing imagery<br>
>>> > (<a href="http://osmph.github.io/Imagery_Coverage_Map/" target="_blank">http://osmph.github.io/Imagery_Coverage_Map/</a>), but sometimes<br>
>>> > still unmapped in OSM. (Not to mention the rivers).<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > GNS (<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GNS" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GNS</a>) can also be a good<br>
>>> > source for names, even if it sometimes includes old versions of<br>
>>> > duplicated nodes with inaccurate location. High resolution imagery<br>
>>> > can be useful to tell which is right in these cases.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Best wishes,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Jean-Guilhem<br>
>>> ><br>
>>><br>
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Press statement:<br>
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*On Friday, devastation hit the Philippines. The massively destructive<br>
typhoon, Haiyan, turned into one of the strongest tropical cyclones ever<br>
recorded at landfall, with winds estimated at 195 mph, gusts up to 235 mph<br>
and a storm surge that rose up to 20 feet high. As with any natural<br>
disaster, rapid, comprehensive, unclassified satellite coverage can be an<br>
invaluable tool for responding to these major events.*<br>
<br>
*On November 07, 2013 at 7 pm EST, several hours before Typhoon Haiyan made<br>
landfall, DigitalGlobe activated FirstLook<br>
<<a href="http://www.digitalglobe.com/products/insight/firstlook" target="_blank">http://www.digitalglobe.com/products/insight/firstlook</a>>, an online<br>
subscription service for emergency managers and enterprise customers that<br>
provides fast, web-based access to pre- and post-event imagery of natural<br>
and manmade disasters. In the first few days, following the initial<br>
devastation, DigitalGlobe?s satellites collected and delivered over 19,000<br>
square kilometersof imagery in the hardest hit areas, including Tacloban<br>
City and the surrounding areas. FirstLook?s frequent revisit times have<br>
enabled rapid delivery of quality imagery content during this time-critical<br>
event.*<br>
<br>
*Below is a chilling image chip, depicting the impact from typhoon Haiyan.*<br>
<br>
*WE NEED YOUR HELP ? JOIN THE CROWD:The scale of the storm?s destruction<br>
has been massive. In addition to collecting imagery, we need volunteers to<br>
help us map the devastation. In support of such efforts, DigitalGlobe has<br>
activated a crowdsourcing campaign, open to anyone willing to help.*<br>
<br>
*<a href="http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/haiyantyphoon2013" target="_blank">http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/haiyantyphoon2013</a><br>
<<a href="http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/haiyantyphoon2013" target="_blank">http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/haiyantyphoon2013</a>>*<br>
<br>
*For this campaign, we will be releasing the crowd produced results to the<br>
open source community. Contact DigitalGlobe?s Tomnod platform team at<br>
<<a href="mailto:info@tomnod.com">info@tomnod.com</a>><a href="mailto:info@tomnod.com">info@tomnod.com</a> <<a href="mailto:info@tomnod.com">info@tomnod.com</a>> if you are interested in<br>
receiving access to the Haiyan data.*<br>
<br>
*More resources from DigitalGlobe:*<br>
<br>
*For media: please use required attribution ?Satellite image courtesy of<br>
DigitalGlobe? and copyright. See our usage<br>
policy <a href="http://www.digitalglobe.com/usage#usage-information" target="_blank">http://www.digitalglobe.com/usage#usage-information</a><br>
<<a href="http://www.digitalglobe.com/usage#usage-information" target="_blank">http://www.digitalglobe.com/usage#usage-information</a>>.*<br>
<br>
*For geospatial professionals:here is the catalog ID<br>
<<a href="https://browse.digitalglobe.com/imagefinder/showBrowseImage?catalogId=103001002841F600&imageHeight=natres&imageWidth=natres" target="_blank">https://browse.digitalglobe.com/imagefinder/showBrowseImage?catalogId=103001002841F600&imageHeight=natres&imageWidth=natres</a>><br>
you<br>
can use to quickly access your area of interest.*<br>
<br>
*For U.S. government employees: Use your .gov or .mil address to obtain<br>
access to our high resolution satellite imagery via My DigitalGlobe<br>
<<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pSr9XqhUe8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pSr9XqhUe8</a>>, and NGA?s EnhancedView<br>
program.*<br>
<br>
*Download our complete FirstLook Report here<br>
<<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/DigitalGlobe/ph-typhoon-haiyan2013nov11" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/DigitalGlobe/ph-typhoon-haiyan2013nov11</a>>. *<br>
<br>
*This area on the west side of Cancabato Bay bore some of the heaviest<br>
brunt. Debris from the storm surge is seen in the lower left area. You can<br>
also make out a ?Help Us? sign in front of the Redemptorist Church*<br>
<br>
See also DigitalGlobe's FirstLook imagery prepared as a slide<br>
show<<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/DigitalGlobe/ph-typhoon-haiyan2013nov11" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/DigitalGlobe/ph-typhoon-haiyan2013nov11</a>><br>
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