<div dir="ltr">Another stakeholder in the Philippine health system, Philhealth, uses their own reference identification for accredited [1] and un-accredited [2] health facilities in the Philippines.<div><br></div><div>The French OSM mappers [3] tagging convention is like ref:PH:doh or ref:PH:phic, for DOH and PHIC/Philhealth, respectively. I think "ref:PH:*=*" is less ambiguous than "nat_ref:*=*"<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>A bit off-topic, but it was interesting to find out that the key ref=* may be used to identify companies using their tax identification numbers [4].</div><div><br><div>[1] <a href="https://gis.philhealth.gov.ph/view_hosp1.php">https://gis.philhealth.gov.ph/view_hosp1.php</a><br>
</div><div>[2] <a href="https://gis.philhealth.gov.ph/view_nonaccre.php">https://gis.philhealth.gov.ph/view_nonaccre.php</a></div><div>[3] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref:FR:*">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref:FR:*</a><br>
<div>[4] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref:vatin">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref:vatin</a></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b>Erwin Olario</b></span></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:seav80@gmail.com" target="_blank">seav80@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">My understanding is that you only add another term to the key name (ref=* --> ref:isil=*) if it is highly likely that some other ID or coding system has a higher priority for the basic ref=* tag.<br>
<br>For example, I think each World Heritage Site has an assigned reference code by UNESCO. For example, Tubbataha Reefs Natural Park has the reference code 653bis[1], but we should probably not tag it as ref=653bis because the national park may have its own coding system in the Philippine Government. So the tag could be ref:whc=653bis as proposed[2].<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">On the other hand, we have many basic ref=* keys such as:<br><br>- int_ref=* (international)<br>- nat_ref=* (national)<br>- reg_ref=* (regional)<br>- loc_ref=* (local)<br>- etc.<br><br>
So we could also tag Tubbataha as int_ref=653bis.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>Basically, as I understand it, adding another term to the key name is only done as a last resort. The only advantage I can see with using ref:doh=* is that its meaning is easier to understand. But that can be easily addressed with proper PH tag documentation in the OSM Wiki.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Anyway, I'd like to know what other people think so that we have a rough consensus on what key to use to tag the DOH facility code on hospitals in OSM.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
Choices:<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">ref=*<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">nat_ref=*<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">ref:doh=*<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>[1] <a href="http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/653" target="_blank">http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/653</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/heritage" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/heritage</a><br><br></div><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:41 PM, maning sambale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" target="_blank">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
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On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <<a href="mailto:seav80@gmail.com" target="_blank">seav80@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div>> Can I suggest that we use either ref=* or nat_ref=* tag for the DOH facility<br>
> code assigned to each hospital? This tag is intended for indicating<br>
> reference numbers/codes/IDs as assigned by some official authority.<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref</a><br>
><br>
> For example, East Avenue Medical Center is assigned the code 504. So we<br>
> should add ref=504 or nat_ref=504 to the hospital POI.<br>
<br>
</div>Sure! I actually tested that yesterday<br>
(<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/54025002" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/54025002</a>).<br>
I have to correct my tagging and also remove the zeroes.<br>
<br>
>From the wiki (<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref</a>), the ref<br>
tag is used in various ways by adding namespace. Should we used<br>
ref:doh=504 like the isil ref<br>
(<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref:isil" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref:isil</a>)?<br>
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