<div dir="ltr">Hi Maning, <div>Will the trainers workshop be open to everybody and are the dates final?</div><div><br></div><div>Carlo. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:51 PM, maning sambale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" target="_blank">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear everyone,<br>
<br>
Below are the planned activities for Trainors Training Workshops:<br>
<br>
1. Module development sprint. This will be an in-person sprint with<br>
HOT and OSM Indonesia.<br>
Venue: ESSC QC Office May 30 - June 1, 2014<br>
<br>
2. Conduct of Trainors Training Workshop. Venue: to be determined. Jun<br>
9-13, 2014<br>
<br>
Everyone is invited to participate. We hope that by the end of this<br>
activities, we have a full set of training modules you can use to run<br>
OSM workshops.<br>
<br>
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From: maning sambale <<a href="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:40 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Increasing demand for OSM talks and workshops<br>
To: osm-ph <<a href="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
<br>
<br>
Dear everyone,<br>
<br>
As a follow-up on this discussion. ESSC in partnership with the<br>
Humanitarian OSM Team, OSM Indonesia and WB will kickstart this idea.<br>
<br>
The general plan is:<br>
1. Develop a trainors training manual by consolidating existing<br>
materials and experiences from previous training activities in teh<br>
Philippines and Indonesia.<br>
2. Run a TOT workshop for groups and individual interested to be a an<br>
OSM trainor/facilitator.<br>
<br>
More details soon. Of course, we invite the whole community to<br>
participate both in the development of the materials and the test run<br>
itself.<br>
Resources are limited for the test run training so if there a groups<br>
interested to pool in resources do let us know.<br>
<br>
Timeline: May-June 2014.<br>
<br>
More ideas welcome.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Robert Banick <<a href="mailto:rbanick@gmail.com">rbanick@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Maning et al,<br>
><br>
> The American Red Cross would love to partner with OSM-PH on any trainings we<br>
> develop and conduct. We've done OSM trainings before elsewhere and have some<br>
> materials and approaches that we can pull across to the Philippines. If<br>
> anything the Philippines is easier because English fluency is much higher<br>
> than many places we go.<br>
><br>
> We're on the verge of submitting our formal plan to get this done and then<br>
> we'll be working out the resourcing, so it could be some months.<br>
><br>
> One thing we try to do within the Red Cross is connect OSM to projects or<br>
> activities that National Societies do on a regular basis. This helps ensure<br>
> that the training gets used. We need to talk with the Philippines Red Cross<br>
> and identify some high-value use cases that we can plug OSM into. Dale might<br>
> be able to contribute more thoughts on that.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Robert<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:41 AM, maning sambale <<a href="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Dear everyone,<br>
>><br>
>> Great discussion!<br>
>><br>
>> First, coming from a 4-day road trip from Leyte and Samar for our<br>
>> internal assessment ~3 months after Yolanda, remote training is not<br>
>> really the best option.<br>
>> In many areas, 3g connection is non-existent so, we need to find ways<br>
>> on how to do on site training under these conditions especially for<br>
>> LGUs interested to use OSM.<br>
>><br>
>> Let me try to summarize the action points. From the thread I see the<br>
>> following activites we need to do.<br>
>><br>
>> 1. Create a suite of materials for promotion and lightning talks about<br>
>> OSM. This will be used as basic intro to OSM, whenever a group<br>
>> invites us to speak.<br>
>> I created a stub github repo for this [0]. Feel free to add slides,<br>
>> brochures and whatever materials you think is useful.<br>
>><br>
>> 2. Design a training/workshop package which OSM trainors can use.<br>
>> Possible content/module can be:<br>
>> - Basic overview to OSM<br>
>> - Basic data collection and editing workflow<br>
>> - Specific modules on using OSM depending on use cases (i.e. LGU,<br>
>> NGO, DRR, etc.)<br>
>><br>
>> We (essc) have already developed an initial training design and<br>
>> materials for our Pampanga project. We can use this as an initial<br>
>> draft of the modules.<br>
>> We also have <a href="http://learnosm.org" target="_blank">learnosm.org</a> as another resource. A major topic<br>
>> mentioned here is how to collect data using smartphones, maybe this<br>
>> will be one major content we need develop.<br>
>><br>
>> HOT-Id have more experience in doing OSM trainings, perhaps we can do<br>
>> knowledge sharing with them as we develop the design and content?<br>
>> @Kate, how can we do this? What resources is needed?<br>
>><br>
>> American Red Cross is also planning to do OSM trainings. @Robert, any<br>
>> possibilities on developing this together with OSM-PH?<br>
>><br>
>> 3. Run a trainors training/workshop to interested OSM trainors.<br>
>><br>
>> 4. Design a communication protocol to remotely support either the<br>
>> local trainors or the participants after the conduct of training<br>
>> (options mentioned are skype, mumble, teamviewer). Or do follow-up<br>
>> visits if possible?<br>
>><br>
>> Sounds like a plan! Please add anything I missed.<br>
>><br>
>> [0] <a href="https://github.com/OSMPH/promo_materials" target="_blank">https://github.com/OSMPH/promo_materials</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Mark Cupitt <<a href="mailto:markcupitt@gmail.com">markcupitt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Kate, I think that once the relationship has been built, that followup<br>
>> > using tools like TeamViewer is very practical. That app has a some great<br>
>> > features, including group sessions, and is free for non commercial use, nd I<br>
>> > am sure there is other alternatives out there just as good.. We have used<br>
>> > Teamviewer as a training and support aid over the past year, but generally<br>
>> > after face to face sessions are done. being able to put a face to the person<br>
>> > on the other end of a remote session is still important IMHO<br>
>> ><br>
>> > This leads into the next obvious step where the trainer becomes the<br>
>> > Mentor to a group of people. In the HOT environment, this person could<br>
>> > become the verifier for work done by his group, etc as the connection<br>
>> > between individuals has already been made and feedback on standards for<br>
>> > tagging can be easily communicated<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Cheers<br>
>> > Mark<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Regards<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Mark Cupitt<br>
>> ><br>
>> > "If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence"<br>
>> ><br>
>> > See me on LinkedIn<br>
>> ><br>
>> > See me on StackExchange<br>
>> ><br>
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>> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Kate Chapman <<a href="mailto:kate@maploser.com">kate@maploser.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hi All,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> We have faced similar challenged in Indonesia. Typically with our<br>
>> >> trainings someone runs the powerpoint and talks at the front but then<br>
>> >> we have other trainers around the trainees looking for problems and<br>
>> >> providing help. There are also times we break into small groups. The<br>
>> >> small groups can sometimes be limited by the lack of a way to show<br>
>> >> everyone the instructors screen though. Typically we try to use two<br>
>> >> projectors (I know a luxury) one shows the slides on the topic and the<br>
>> >> other walks people through what to actual click.<br>
>> >> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Jim Morgan <<a href="mailto:jim@datalude.com">jim@datalude.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> > On 01/31/2014 09:18 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Also, I've noticed that Filipinos generally prefer face-to-face<br>
>> >> >> interaction. I've seen countless times where you ask the audience if<br>
>> >> >> they<br>
>> >> >> have any questions and nobody would raise their hands. But after the<br>
>> >> >> lecture<br>
>> >> >> is over, a few people would approach the lecturer and then ask<br>
>> >> >> questions.<br>
>> >> >> This kind of interaction would be hard to do online.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Point taken about the reticence of audiences here. I've held a few<br>
>> >> > meetings<br>
>> >> > here myself where its really hard to get input ... which has been the<br>
>> >> > whole<br>
>> >> > purpose of the meeting! But I think the group chat might actually<br>
>> >> > encourage<br>
>> >> > this. People actually seem to get braver when they're not putting<br>
>> >> > their hand<br>
>> >> > up in a roomful of people. Basically as the presenter is<br>
>> >> > demonstrating<br>
>> >> > something, questions appear in the group chat, and the presenter can<br>
>> >> > address<br>
>> >> > them when its convenient. It actually seems to work quite well. There<br>
>> >> > are<br>
>> >> > also options to send private messages by email which can be addressed<br>
>> >> > in the<br>
>> >> > Q&A session.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> How do you think doing remote training where an in person connection<br>
>> >> has already been made? For example if participants had taken part in a<br>
>> >> one or two day beginner class, but then could remotely receive<br>
>> >> follow-up training? Perhaps having the initial face to face would<br>
>> >> help.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Best,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> -Kate<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Anyway, just something to consider, and I'm just bouncing the idea<br>
>> >> > around.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Jim<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
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