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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Totally agree, Eugene.<br>
Much better with consistent data, with one way to tag a certain
thing, than to have different processes adapt to incorrect tags,
regardless of how frequent. Besides, anyone calling McDonalds a
*restaurant* clearly needs to get out more! :)<br>
Ronny.<br>
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On 25/05/14 04:44, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:<br>
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I think it would be better for all users of the data in
the long run that the inconsistent name field is the one
corrected instead of your system adjusting for it.<br>
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Let's say that you have a "rule" that says that that
name=McDonald's with amenity=fast_food gets the Golden
Arches icon.<br>
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Now let's say you have other rules that detect stuff that
are probably McDonald's: name=McDonalds amenity=restaurant<br>
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Instead of tagging stuff like this with an additional tag
icon:ph=mcdonalds.png, it would be better to correct those
POIs that don't follow the correct tagging. If you have a
system that detects such near-misses, then I'm sure the
community would like to get a list of them so that they can be
corrected.<br>
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I hope other mappers and users can chime in with their ideas.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Mark
Cupitt <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div dir="ltr">Folks, have been thinking about how we
specify Icons for POI's in the Philippines OSM Map. I have
Icons for most of the PH specific businesses, like
Jollibee, Banks, and so on and would like to use them<br
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<div>At the moment, the only way to do this is to run
through the database checking the name tag and
seeing if it starts with jollibee, BDO mcdo, etc.
This is a very intensive effort on a million+
points. I am doing the code for it now and it has to
be run on a very regular basis to pick up new POI'S
from the daily diff updates. It also suffers form
spelling errors, and fomat errors, for example "the
jollibee" will to be identified as the name has to
start with "jollibee" (in text string searches in
postgres do not use indexes, and are too expensive
on the database, so we have to assume that the name
starts with the search text.</div>
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<div>I will publish the icons we have at some stage
very soon where they can be viewed by anyone.</div>
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<div>To make it very easy to have granular control
over icon display, I propose that we do the
following:</div>
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<div>Add an icon:ph tag to nodes as they are created
that contains the filename of the icon to display
(from the list published)</div>
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<div>For example, a node of a Mcdonalds might have a
tag amenity="fast_food" name="Mcdonalds Quezon City"
and a icon:ph="mcdonalds.png"</div>
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<div>The system will first check if the icon:ph exists
and use the icon specified in that. if not, it will
fall back to database determined value done on a
weekly or monthly basis, with all the inherent
pitfalls in the use of the name field. If that does
not work, it will display a generic icon which is a
Red Dot.</div>
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<div>One big advantage of this proposal is that people
can submit their own logos in icon form, they are
easy to add to the system, them specify them for
specific businesses, leisure, bars, etc. on the
actual poi ..so the value added to the map will be
tremendous in the future.</div>
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<div>Thoughts, flames, thumbs up, thumbs down, rounds
of applause on this proposal very much appreciated
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<div>Regards</div>
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