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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">This is a good point Eugene, and in
fact the bridge names are very good landmarks, given that there
are not many other signs on the roads in the Philippines,
especially in rural areas. Another thing to take into
consideration is that many bridges gain their name from the river
they cross over, so there may be many bridges with the same name.
They are definitely not tagged consistently at the moment, for
example:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/15.15516/120.59219">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/15.15516/120.59219</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/15.15840/120.60712">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/15.15840/120.60712</a><br>
If I remember correctly, they are both named Abacan Bridge, but
only one of them has that name on the map, and incidentally the
one with a different road name on each side does not.<br>
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Do you know if common routing software will pick up the
bridge:name=* tag?<br>
Yes, I know we're not supposed to tag based on what current
software will pick up, but it is interesting to know, given that
bridges are such great landmarks.<br>
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It would be great with a published suggested standard that fits
the Philippine conditions.<br>
Ronny.<br>
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On 2015-02-19 08:08, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:<br>
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Most bridges here in the Philippines have names no matter
how small. You can usually spot their name on the guard rail
or on a small sign just before the bridge. These names are
almost always accompanied by the maximum load the bridge can
handle (which is tagged using maxweight=*) and sometimes
with the distance from the island's zero-kilometer marker (I
have no idea how to tag these. Maybe distance=*?).<br>
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Some examples:<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.philippinesdailyphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/bukidnon-atugan-bridge.jpg">http://www.philippinesdailyphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/bukidnon-atugan-bridge.jpg</a><br>
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href="http://www.zamboanga.com/z/images/0/09/Calapan_Bridge,_Calapan,_Kabasalan,_Zamboanga_Sibugay,_Philippines.JPG">http://www.zamboanga.com/z/images/0/09/Calapan_Bridge,_Calapan,_Kabasalan,_Zamboanga_Sibugay,_Philippines.JPG</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://static.rappler.com/images/tullahan-bridge-screengrab-20130708.jpg">http://static.rappler.com/images/tullahan-bridge-screengrab-20130708.jpg</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">I expect that only the major bridges have
name. And we generally refer to these by their name
and not the road reference. Unless you have
particularities in Philippines.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Example Golden Gate Bridge in San
Francisco bay.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Re: [talk-ph] Tagging bridges and tunnels<br>
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Option 1 is what I do.<br
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Take note that if we have a way with
highway=something and bridge=yes, then
the object is primarily a highway/road
and the bridge is only an aspect or
property of the highway/road segment.
Therefore, the name=* tag should be
the name of the highway/road. And then
put the name of the bridge on the
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Besides, it will be very weird to have a
long highway with unconnected names just
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The only time I would put the name of
the bridge on the name=* tag is if the
roads from both ends of the bridge have
different names. For example, the bridge
formerly called Del Pan in Manila: <a
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tagging bridges.<br
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What is the appropriate
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Option1: Use the name of the
road, and place the name of
the bridge under bridge:name
or the name of the tunnel
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<b>Schadow1
Expeditions</b>
- A Filipino
must not be a
stranger to
his own
motherland.
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