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--></style></head><body><div>Thanks for showing me those previous discussions </div><div><br /></div>
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<div>From: "Eugene Alvin Villar" <<a href="mailto:seav80@gmail.com">seav80@gmail.com</a>></div>
<div>To: "David Groom" <<a href="mailto:reviews@pacific-rim.net">reviews@pacific-rim.net</a>></div>
<div>Cc: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" <<a href="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</a>></div>
<div>Sent: 02/05/2017 04:31:46</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm</div><div><br /></div>
<div id="xfc4832ca2c54490"><blockquote cite="CAPhqi6J3fHb5dy02fD5skk0aNQZ27BNKDEVqF4NEev67R5NxxQ@mail.gmail.com" type="cite" class="cite2">
<div dir="ltr"><div>Of the 3 options, I also favor option 3. For the record, I've been saying that landuse=farmland (or landuse=farm before) should be tagged on the entire farm area and not on individual fields (or rice paddies if crop=rice). See this post of mine from 2009:<br /><br /><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-November/001545.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-November/001545.html</a><br /><br /></div><div>There's also a relevant discussion in 2014 regarding the mapping of individual farm fields/paddies (thread archive is split into two months):<br /><br /><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2014-August/005229.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2014-August/005229.html</a><br /><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2014-October/005318.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2014-October/005318.html</a><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>For the specific case of rice paddies, there are actually two ways you can go about mapping things (once you've marked up the whole area as a single landuse=farmland):<br /><br /></div><div>1. Mark the borders between paddies as ways as these are raised lines of land that serve as walls to hold the water and secondarily serve as footpaths (but shouldn't be tagged as highway=*) to access individual paddies. There was the suggestion to use man_made=bund or man_made=embankment or something similar but no decision was made.<br /><br /></div><div>2. Mark the paddies as individual polygons.<br /></div><div><br /></div>~Eugene<br /><div class="gmail_extra"><br /><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 3:28 AM, David Groom <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:reviews@pacific-rim.net">reviews@pacific-rim.net</a>></span> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u><div><div><br /></div><div>During early April I looked at nodes/ways/relations tagged as landuse=farm as reclassified many of them as appropriate.</div><div><br /></div><div>Howver , in some places I noted that individual fields had been tagged using landuse = farm,<span style="font-size:12pt"> for example:</span></div><div><br /></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/11.225924767247454/124.54216374231005" style="font-size:12pt">https://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr>#map=19/11.225924767247454/<wbr>124.54216374231005</wbr></wbr></a></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/16.933969/121.13637">https://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr>#map=18/16.933969/121.13637</wbr></a></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/14.883274660783613/120.25851326487962">https://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr>#map=17/14.883274660783613/<wbr>120.25851326487962</wbr></wbr></a></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>At present I have done nothing with these ways</div><div><br /></div><div>The standard use in OSM for landuse=farmland is for it to be used on larger areas, rather than individual fields</div><div><br /></div><div>There appears to be no approved tag in OSM for fields, (though <a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/field#values">taginfo</a> shows field=yes used on 388 occasions worldwide)</div><div><br /></div><div>There seem to be a number of possibilities regarding these ways:</div><div><br /></div><div>1) retag them as landuse=farmland</div><div>2) delete them and draw a single way round the larger outline of all the adjacent fields and tag this as landuse=farmland</div><div>3) retag <span style="font-size:12pt"> them as field=yes, and also </span><span style="font-size:12pt">draw a single way round the larger outline of all the adjacent fields and tag this as landuse=farmland.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt">Of these I think I favour approach 3 as it keeps the field data in OSM (someone might have a use for this)</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12pt"><br /></span></div><div>What are your thoughts?</div><div><br /></div><div>Regards</div><span class=""><div><br /></div><div>David</div><div><span style="font-size:12pt"><br /></span></div><div><br /></div><div id="m_3757593421437136153signature_old"></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>
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</span><span class=""><div>From: "David Groom" <<a href="mailto:reviews@pacific-rim.net">reviews@pacific-rim.net</a>></div>
<div>To: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" <<a href="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</a>></div>
<div>Sent: 31/03/2017 12:23:53</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm</div><div><br /></div>
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<div><div id="m_3757593421437136153xe40ca43b466048d4b24ca1d168621a58"><div><div>I don't think it will take too long for one person to do this, but I may be mistaken.</div><div><br /></div><div>It will also be an opportunity to look at some of the areas tagged as "landuse = farm", and merge them into adjacent areas where appropriate.</div></div><div><br /></div><div>David</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div></div></div>
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<div>From: "Eugene Alvin Villar" <<a href="mailto:seav80@gmail.com">seav80@gmail.com</a>></div>
<div>To: "David Groom" <<a href="mailto:reviews@pacific-rim.net">reviews@pacific-rim.net</a>></div>
<div>Cc: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" <<a href="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</a>></div>
<div>Sent: 30/03/2017 00:56:18</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm</div><div><br /></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:06 PM, David Groom <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:reviews@pacific-rim.net">reviews@pacific-rim.net</a>></span> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u><br /><div>Shall I start looking at the relations and ways and change where appropriate from "landuse = farm" to "landuse = farmland"?<div><br /></div><div>What do you think?</div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div>Go for it! Would it also make sense to turn this into a Maproulette task?<br /><br /></div><div>~Eugene <br /></div></div></div></div>
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