<div dir="ltr">Wow, is this the problem of OSM where there needs to be an element of trust. Perhaps find a blatantly incorrect POI and compare?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 at 18:06, Erwin Olario <<a href="mailto:govvin@gmail.com">govvin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">CC'ing the list of their latest response: <span style="background:unset;background-blend-mode:unset;border:unset;border-radius:unset;display:unset;float:unset;clear:unset;vertical-align:unset;overflow:unset;isolation:unset;break-after:unset;break-before:unset;break-inside:unset;columns:unset;column-fill:unset;column-rule:unset;column-span:unset;opacity:unset;mix-blend-mode:unset;font:unset;writing-mode:unset;text-orientation:unset;image-orientation:unset;border-collapse:unset;empty-cells:unset;caption-side:unset;border-spacing:unset;color:unset;text-transform:unset;text-indent:unset;word-break:unset;text-align-last:unset;text-align:unset;letter-spacing:unset;word-spacing:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;line-break:unset;text-combine-upright:unset;text-underline-position:unset;list-style:unset;quotes:unset;margin:unset;outline:unset;padding:unset;width:unset;min-width:unset;max-width:unset;height:unset;min-height:unset;max-height:unset;box-sizing:unset;object-fit:unset;object-position:unset;table-layout:unset;text-overflow:unset;text-decoration:unset"><a href="https://imgur.com/ml0IR2e" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/ml0IR2e</a></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span style="background:unset;background-blend-mode:unset;border:unset;border-radius:unset;display:unset;float:unset;clear:unset;vertical-align:unset;overflow:unset;isolation:unset;break-after:unset;break-before:unset;break-inside:unset;columns:unset;column-fill:unset;column-rule:unset;column-span:unset;opacity:unset;mix-blend-mode:unset;font:unset;writing-mode:unset;text-orientation:unset;image-orientation:unset;border-collapse:unset;empty-cells:unset;caption-side:unset;border-spacing:unset;color:unset;text-transform:unset;text-indent:unset;word-break:unset;text-align-last:unset;text-align:unset;letter-spacing:unset;word-spacing:unset;white-space:pre-wrap;line-break:unset;text-combine-upright:unset;text-underline-position:unset;list-style:unset;quotes:unset;margin:unset;outline:unset;padding:unset;width:unset;min-width:unset;max-width:unset;height:unset;min-height:unset;max-height:unset;box-sizing:unset;object-fit:unset;object-position:unset;table-layout:unset;text-overflow:unset;text-decoration:unset"><br></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"></span>We hire third-parties who are from the area
being mapped to tag the location of establishments, landmarks, and other
government offices.
They will send to us the coordinates and the names of the places, and
will be encoded accordingly by a third-party.<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"></span><div>
<p>The chances of having the same establishments, landmarks, and
government offices on the same location as Google is for the basic
reason that we are mapping the same areas on planet Earth. Unless,
Google mapped an alternate universe that would result in different
mapping of the same locality.<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"></span></p></div></blockquote><div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">FWIW, I previously invited them to engage with the LoCo through an online meeting, but instead got this response.<br></div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">FYI.</div><br></div><div><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif" color="#999999">- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - </font></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><font color="#999999">»</font><font color="#ff6633"> </font>email:<font color="#000000"> <a href="mailto:erwin@ngnuity.net" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">erwin@</a></font><a href="http://ngnuity.xyz/" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank"><font color="#ff9900"><b>n</b></font><font color="#0066cc"><b>gnu</b></font><b><font color="#9900ff">it</font></b><font color="#ff9900"><b>y</b></font><font color="#000000"><b>.<font color="#ff9900">xyz</font></b></font></a><font color="#000000"> </font><span style="color:rgb(255,102,51)"></span><font color="#000000"></font></font><div><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><font color="#999999">»</font><font color="#ff6633"> </font>mobile: <a href="https://t.me/GOwin" target="_blank">https://t.me/GOwin</a></font></div><div><div><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><font><font color="#999999">»</font><font color="#000000"> </font></font>OpenPGP key: 3A93D56B <span style="color:rgb(255,102,51)">|</span> 5D42 7CCB 8827 9046 1ACB 0B94 63A4 81CE 3A93 D56B</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 12:19 PM Jherome Miguel <<a href="mailto:jheromemiguel@gmail.com" target="_blank">jheromemiguel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Sorry, dapat send to all. </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Jherome Miguel</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:jheromemiguel@gmail.com" target="_blank">jheromemiguel@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 10:06 PM<br>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: Another user possibly illegal copying from GMaps<br>To: Erwin Olario <<a href="mailto:govvin@gmail.com" target="_blank">govvin@gmail.com</a>><br></div><br><br><div dir="auto">Naghihintay pa ako ng reply sa huli kong PM with Jan Rei. Sana may linaw na ang kaso nung kay JP Baje, kung member sya ng PARA mapping team. Di ko maiwasang mapa-PI at map-l****k nang nakita ko ang mga edits ni Jan Rei. Salamat na we have now a direct contact with a PARA map editor.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 9:59 PM Erwin Olario <<a href="mailto:govvin@gmail.com" target="_blank">govvin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Sa palagay ko, ang pinaka-maganda ay makapag-setup ng dialogue sa grupong (?) ito, para matulungan silang malinawan sa mga alituntunin ng OSM, kung yun nga talaga ang isyu dito.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Sumagot ulit yung user na kausap ko, at sinasabi niyang hindi daw kinopya sa ibang mapa yung mga edits niya, at kinalap daw niya yon sa ibang sources. Hiniling kong mag-bigay siya ng karagdagan pang detalye sa proseso nila.<br clear="all"></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(153,153,153)" face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif">- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - </font><div><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(153,153,153)">»</font><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(255,102,51)"> </font>email:<font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <a href="mailto:erwin@ngnuity.net" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">erwin@</a></font><a href="http://ngnuity.xyz/" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank"><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(255,153,0)"><b style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">n</b></font><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,102,204)"><b style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">gnu</b></font><b style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(153,0,255)">it</font></b><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(255,153,0)"><b style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">y</b></font><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">.<font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(255,153,0)">xyz</font></b></font></a><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </font><span style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(255,102,51)"></span><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></font></font><div><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(153,153,153)">»</font><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(255,102,51)"> </font>mobile: <a href="https://t.me/GOwin" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif" target="_blank">https://t.me/GOwin</a></font></div><div><div><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(153,153,153)">»</font><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </font></font>OpenPGP key: 3A93D56B <span style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(255,102,51)">|</span> 5D42 7CCB 8827 9046 1ACB 0B94 63A4 81CE 3A93 D56B</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 11:39 AM Jherome Miguel <<a href="mailto:jheromemiguel@gmail.com" target="_blank">jheromemiguel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Kinakausap ko na rin ang user kung kilala rin niya yung si “JPBaje”. Lumalakas ang kutob ko na editor rin sya for PARA, lalo’t hindi siya nag-reply sa una kong mga PM sa kanya bago nirevert ang lahat ng edits niya at siya’y binlock ng DWG.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 8:40 PM Erwin Olario <<a href="mailto:govvin@gmail.com" target="_blank">govvin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I also got a reply, and the username[0] has been changed.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">The user acknowledged their affiliation with the Para app, but did not disclose the source of their edits.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I have previously been in touch with officers from this corporation, and in the past, they promised that they will abide by OSM rules. If you get any permission to share that number, I'm willing to discuss this further with their users <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">[0]: <a href="https://osmcha.org/filters?aoi=68b0b447-b692-47cd-ac6d-7be521e084b4" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif" target="_blank">https://osmcha.org/filters?aoi=68b0b447-b692-47cd-ac6d-7be521e084b4</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(153,153,153)" face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif">- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - </font><div><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(153,153,153)">»</font><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(255,102,51)"> </font>email:<font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <a href="mailto:erwin@ngnuity.net" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">erwin@</a></font><a href="http://ngnuity.xyz/" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank"><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(255,153,0)"><b style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">n</b></font><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,102,204)"><b style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">gnu</b></font><b style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(153,0,255)">it</font></b><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(255,153,0)"><b style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">y</b></font><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">.<font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(255,153,0)">xyz</font></b></font></a><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </font><span style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(255,102,51)"></span><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></font></font><div><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(153,153,153)">»</font><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(255,102,51)"> </font>mobile: <a href="https://t.me/GOwin" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif" target="_blank">https://t.me/GOwin</a></font></div><div><div><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(153,153,153)">»</font><font style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </font></font>OpenPGP key: 3A93D56B <span style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(255,102,51)">|</span> 5D42 7CCB 8827 9046 1ACB 0B94 63A4 81CE 3A93 D56B</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 10:07 AM Jherome Miguel <<a href="mailto:jheromemiguel@gmail.com" target="_blank">jheromemiguel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Jherome Miguel</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:jheromemiguel@gmail.com" target="_blank">jheromemiguel@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 8:04 PM<br>Subject: Re: Another user possibly illegal copying from GMaps<br>To: Eugene Alvin Villar <<a href="mailto:seav80@gmail.com" target="_blank">seav80@gmail.com</a>><br></div><br><br>Just received reply (in Tagalog) from user, asking me to contact by phone, but as I’m in Canada, could discuss it on-site instead. I’m in a middle of a mass revert of edits around BF Homes when I received their PM.
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