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--></style></head><body lang=EN-PH link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Maybe a kid or young teen, unfortunately we don’t know. Doesn’t OSM have a minimum age requirement for a user? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=font-italic style='margin-top:0cm;background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'>Going on, I would also like to note his user descriptions. First, it was “U M G”, then it become “Home Countries Map”. Looks child stuff, but better beware, he could just be feigning that. And also note his changeset comments like “</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#212529'>Drawing paint secondary road map blocked SometingElse”” “One Way Another May Road Number”. I can’t understand those, and I’ll readily question his competence.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:data@otrs.openstreetmap.org">Data Working Group</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, 21 January 2022 3:14 am<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:jheromemiguel@gmail.com">Jherome Miguel</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Ticket#2022012010000052] [talk-ph] "Open Paint Maps"</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>> We can’t just trust anyone in the Net.<br><br>It's always been like that - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_you%27re_a_dog is from 1993 (!)<br><br>Based on the reactions and comments from this mapper, my guess is that they're still at school.<br><br>Best regards<br>Andy Townsend<br><br>--<br>OpenStreetMap Foundation<br>Data Working Group - data@osmfoundation.org<br>--<br>[Ticket#2022012010000052]<br><br>20/01/2022 08:48 (Europe/London) - Jherome Miguel wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Maybe sorry if my first response was an overreaction, but I can’t understand his changeset comments in the first place and he repeatedly trolled me (and also you) with proposed block in changeset comments and in diary posts that have been deleted. Maybe he could just be throwing a fit after being reverted, but it’s hard to tell what he means behind a screen. His English is incomprehensible, and his profile pic is kind of childish art, but that’s all I know about him. We can’t just trust anyone in the Net.<br> <br>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows<br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>From: </span></strong><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com">Andy Townsend</a><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Sent: </span></strong>Friday, 21 January 2022 2:53 am<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>To: </span></strong><a href="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph</a><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Subject: </span></strong>Re: [talk-ph] "Open Paint Maps"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I think we need to take a bit of a step back here.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>This is a new account with just over 100 edits, and they're going to make mistakes (I certainly did at that stage). They may not fully understand what they're editing, or why some things should be mapped as one thing or another.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>The changeset discussion comments they've received can be seen at <a href="https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=14817502">https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=14817502</a> .<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>While it's great to get in touch and say what they've done wrong, what would be better would be to explain in a bit more detail why (e.g. with changeset comments link to <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments</a> which explains how they help).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Rather than "clean your mess" it would help to explain why something is classified as A not B, and to offer to help with other questions that they will surely have.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>With regard to "Drawing paint secondary road map blocked SometingElse" it's not really "Blackmail"; it's just a comment by someone who's hurting from their first interaction with the OSM community.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Maybe it just needs someone in the area (perhaps someone not previously involved) to say "hello and welcome" and ask "how can I help"?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Andy<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On 21/01/2022 02:29, Jherome Miguel wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>For everyone who wants to deal with this mapper, be warned! You can be singled out for false accusation of all sorts, and he's now resorting to trolling every user who monitors his edits. He's now blocked, but he's not going to stop until he gets a longer block.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 6:39 PM Jherome Miguel <<a href="mailto:jheromemiguel@gmail.com">jheromemiguel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: </span><strong><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Jherome Miguel</span></strong><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <<a href="mailto:jheromemiguel@gmail.com">jheromemiguel@gmail.com</a>><br>Date: Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 6:31 PM<br>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] "Open Paint Maps"<br>To: Andy Townsend <<a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com">ajt1047@gmail.com</a>>, <<a href="mailto:data@openstreetmap.org">data@openstreetmap.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>He’s back again, and he's now blackmailing you in his latest edit comment (i.e. Drawing paint secondary road map blocked SometingElse). Already warned some local users to be careful. Please consider revert once user is blocked.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 7:41 AM Andy Townsend <<a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com">ajt1047@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On 16/01/2022 06:41, Jherome Miguel wrote:<br>> Anyone monitoring this new user, "Open Paint Maps"? This one's<br>> suspicious, not only for its username that is obviously deceptively<br>> similar to the OSM name, but this is also messing with roads in<br>> various places. Just undid or fix some of this one's edits.<br>><br>See <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/5604">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/5604</a> .<br><br>We'll keep an eye on future edits.<br><br>Best Regards,<br><br>Andy (from the DWG)<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>talk-ph mailing list<br><a href="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph</a><br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>