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--></style></head><body lang=EN-PH link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Hi, Andy (SomeoneElse)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Maybe sorry if my first response was an overreaction, but I can’t understand his changeset comments in the first place and he repeatedly trolled me (and also you) with proposed block in changeset comments and in diary posts that have been deleted. Maybe he could just be throwing a fit after being reverted, but it’s hard to tell what he means behind a screen. His English is incomprehensible, and his profile pic is kind of childish art, but that’s all I know about him. We can’t just trust anyone in the Net.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com">Andy Townsend</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, 21 January 2022 2:53 am<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [talk-ph] "Open Paint Maps"</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I think we need to take a bit of a step back here.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is a new account with just over 100 edits, and they're going to make mistakes (I certainly did at that stage). They may not fully understand what they're editing, or why some things should be mapped as one thing or another.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The changeset discussion comments they've received can be seen at <a href="https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=14817502">https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=14817502</a> .<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>While it's great to get in touch and say what they've done wrong, what would be better would be to explain in a bit more detail why (e.g. with changeset comments link to <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments</a> which explains how they help).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rather than "clean your mess" it would help to explain why something is classified as A not B, and to offer to help with other questions that they will surely have.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>With regard to "Drawing paint secondary road map blocked SometingElse" it's not really "Blackmail"; it's just a comment by someone who's hurting from their first interaction with the OSM community.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Maybe it just needs someone in the area (perhaps someone not previously involved) to say "hello and welcome" and ask "how can I help"?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Andy<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 21/01/2022 02:29, Jherome Miguel wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>For everyone who wants to deal with this mapper, be warned! You can be singled out for false accusation of all sorts, and he's now resorting to trolling every user who monitors his edits. He's now blocked, but he's not going to stop until he gets a longer block.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 6:39 PM Jherome Miguel <<a href="mailto:jheromemiguel@gmail.com">jheromemiguel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Jherome Miguel</span></strong> <<a href="mailto:jheromemiguel@gmail.com">jheromemiguel@gmail.com</a>><br>Date: Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 6:31 PM<br>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] "Open Paint Maps"<br>To: Andy Townsend <<a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com">ajt1047@gmail.com</a>>, <<a href="mailto:data@openstreetmap.org">data@openstreetmap.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>He’s back again, and he's now blackmailing you in his latest edit comment (i.e. Drawing paint secondary road map blocked SometingElse). Already warned some local users to be careful. Please consider revert once user is blocked.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 7:41 AM Andy Townsend <<a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com">ajt1047@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:36.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:45.6pt'>On 16/01/2022 06:41, Jherome Miguel wrote:<br>> Anyone monitoring this new user, "Open Paint Maps"? This one's <br>> suspicious, not only for its username that is obviously deceptively <br>> similar to the OSM name, but this is also messing with roads in <br>> various places. Just undid or fix some of this one's edits.<br>><br>See <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/5604">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/5604</a> .<br><br>We'll keep an eye on future edits.<br><br>Best Regards,<br><br>Andy (from the DWG)<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>talk-ph mailing list<br><a href="mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org">talk-ph@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>