<div dir="auto">Evidence are their their diary entries that are basically harassment; those can be easily reported and deleted. Also look at <br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/119747584">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/119747584</a> for an example of their MO of revenge attacks that follow the established MO of Open Paint Maps. When I reverted multiple change sets this morning, they came back and posted a comment that basically returned back the claims regarding their behavior to me. This kind of threatening behavior isn't new to me; I can remember one case back in 2017 on Wikipedia over removal of items in "In the news" by an IP; I asked administrations to block them, and after that, they hounded me with false sock puppet accusations (though the primary report is with edit warring and generally disruptive behavior). The user is evading a block, and they're returning attack by falsely accusing them of the same thing.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Whether the two are the same person is hard to tell, but it's very obvious from the ones I've observed. Perhaps DWG should do an IP address check? Blocking "VJMEJ Planned" for just a short time, to me, won't deter them; whether they'll use the account again or create another after that, they'll keep on disrupting the database and threatening anyone who get into their way.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 11:40 PM Vincent Veldman <<a href="mailto:Vincent@veldman.me">Vincent@veldman.me</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div>Obviously threatening or harassing fellow mappers is not the way to go.<br><br>Screenshots of the threats/harassment or any other rude immortal unethical behavior?<br><br>If you have proof showing actual threats - you can use my username to confirm I would support OSMF to block that user for a temporary period initially..<br><br>And see if a temporary ban can change behavior...<br><br><div>But before using my name to back the request for OSMF or anyone else stepping in - I'd need to see some screenshots as proof - as I'm always reluctant to ban/block or generally harsh measuments</div><div><br></div><div>As for - the same person with 2 or possibly more accounts - screenshots? Or links of possible public conversation/comments? <br><br>I'm all for a 2 step approach generally if there's proof a person is totally out of line - ... temporary harsh measurements..<br>and if that doesn't work - permanent block/ban<br></div></div><div><br><br><br><br><div><strong>
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<br><br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><div>Main issue is with threatening behavior. When they were reverted, they fought back by returning back what I said about them. When I ask them to be blocked, they use empty threats of block to gain the upper hand. Those are Open Paint Maps MO, and I insist my gut feeling is right.</div></div><div><br></div><div>On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 11:02 PM Vincent Veldman <<a href="mailto:Vincent@veldman.me" title="Send email to Vincent@veldman.me" target="_blank">Vincent@veldman.me</a>> wrote:<br></div><div><div><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div>I can only comment for the area I am living - as I only map what I actually can confirm<br><br><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/871184236" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/871184236</a><br><br><div>nothing wrong with this I'd say</div><div><br></div><div>Also - <br><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/119642907" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/119642907</a><br><br>Nothing seems wrong with this.<br><br>All other edits in the PH I don't talk about - as I don't comment nor map where I'm not myself to verify<br></div><br><br>So for User Open Paint map - no comment as he doesn't edit here where I live<br><br><div></div></div><div><div><strong>
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