Chiar acu vreo saptamana sau doua am deshumat codul care l-am folosit pentru import.<div>Oare ar trebui sa continui? Macar, asa cum a fost, dar a fost un progres. :)</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/7/29 Stefan UNGUREANU <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stefan.ungureanu@mytrek.ro">stefan.ungureanu@mytrek.ro</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Salut,<br>
<br>
Pai nici nu cred ca e vreo legatura. In CLC nu exista limite administrative, numai o suma de poligoane cu diferite caracteristici.<br>
<br>
Tocmai din cauza asta sugerasem mai demult ca datele de la <a href="http://cultura.ro" target="_blank">cultura.ro</a> sa fie folosite ca limite administrative, iar cele de la CLC doar ca poligoane de land cover.<br>
<br>
Stefan.<div class="im"><br>
<br>
On 29/07/2010 21:28, Cristian Draghici wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">
Salut<br>
<br>
Speram sa inteleg cum anume se va realiza treaba, pentru ca, dupa cum am<br>
spus mai jos, eu unul nu vad legatura intre CLC land cover si limite<br>
administrative.<br>
<br></div>
Mai mult, limitele din <a href="http://cultura.ro" target="_blank">cultura.ro</a> <<a href="http://cultura.ro" target="_blank">http://cultura.ro</a>> sunt destul de<div class="im"><br>
incorecte (m-am uitat la Targu Jiu de exemplu) -> ele par sa reprezinta<br>
limitele "de interes cultural" mai degraba decat limitele administrative<br>
(pe satelitar sa vad zone locuite excluse din poligonul orasului).<br>
<br>
<br>
Multumesc,<br>
Cristi<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Stefan UNGUREANU<br></div><div class="im">
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<br></div><div class="im">
Salut,<br>
<br>
Asa cum spune si numele mesajului (Import automatizat pentru limita<br></div>
localitatilor (via <a href="http://cultura.ro" target="_blank">cultura.ro</a> <<a href="http://cultura.ro" target="_blank">http://cultura.ro</a>>)), cred ca era<div class="im"><br>
vorba de a crea limitele localitatilor din datele de la '<a href="http://cultura.ro" target="_blank">cultura.ro</a><br></div>
<<a href="http://cultura.ro" target="_blank">http://cultura.ro</a>>' si poligoanele de landcover de la CLC.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
Stefan.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 28/07/2010 10:00, Cristian Draghici wrote:<br>
<br>
Salut<br>
<br>
<br>
M-am uitat un pic peste datele CLC si ori nu gasesc ce ati gasit<br>
voi,<br>
ori nu inteleg cum pot fi folosite pentru definirea limitelor<br>
oraselor<br>
de exemplu (de aici a plecat thread-ul initial).<br>
<br>
Spre exemplu, daca ma uit la Giurgiu in Urban Atlas:<br>
(<a href="http://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/data/urban-atlas" target="_blank">http://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/data/urban-atlas</a>) CLC nu<br>
defineste un poligon care sa constituie limita orasului, ci un<br>
SET de<br>
poligoane (impartite functie de land use, etc). In acest set de<br>
poligoane e cuprins si un sat alaturat orasului (Slobozia) pentru<br>
simplul fapt ca si in acest sat exista o zona locuita.<br>
<br>
Ca atare, eu nu vad nici o legatura intre limitele<br>
administrative ale<br>
orasului asa cum sunt ele definite la primaria Giurgiu si datele din<br>
CLC, si atunci scopul initial al thread-ului (definire limite<br>
administrative pentru localitati) nu va fi atins.<br>
<br>
Va rog corectati-ma daca gresesc.<br>
<br>
Multumiri,<br>
Cristi<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Stefan UNGUREANU<br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:stefan.ungureanu@mytrek.ro" target="_blank">stefan.ungureanu@mytrek.ro</a>>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Salut tuturor.<br>
<br>
Pentru moment am luat datele si le-am prelucrat. N-am avut<br>
timp sa caut<br>
diferente, insa ceea ce pot sa spun e ca fisierul a crescut.<br>
<br>
Inainte aveam date in valoare de approx 173 Mb, acum avem<br>
approx 176 Mb;<br>
fisierul este comprimat (tar.gz); e drept ca datele reale<br>
sunt probabil<br>
cu vreo 10Mb mai mici pentru ca eu folosesc un contur al<br>
tarii extins cu<br>
10 km (daca imi aduc bine aminte) pentru harta Garmin.<br>
<br>
Stefan.<br>
<br>
On 30/05/2010 19:18, Ciprian Talaba wrote:<br>
> Salutare,<br>
><br>
> Incepand cu data de 27 mai datele CLC 2006 sunt disponibile<br>
in format<br>
> vectorial:<br>
><br>
<a href="http://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/data/clc-2006-vector-data-version" target="_blank">http://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/data/clc-2006-vector-data-version</a>.<br>
><br>
> Avem pagina de wiki<br>
> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Romania_CLC_Import" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Romania_CLC_Import</a> unde se<br>
discuta<br>
> despre solutii legate de importul acestor date iar Stefan a<br>
pus acest<br>
> import in lista globala<br>
> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue</a> si a<br>
inceput sa<br>
> prezinte modul in care realizeaza in acest moment o harta<br>
compusa din<br>
> datele OSM + CLC:<br>
><br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Corine_Land_Cover_Romania_2006" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Corine_Land_Cover_Romania_2006</a>.<br>
><br>
> Haideti sa tragem o concluzie in ceea ce priveste cea mai buna<br>
> modalitate de import si sa ne apucam de treaba. Binenteles o<br>
comparatie<br>
> cu datele OSM si eventual cu cele din CLC 2000 ar fi binevenita,<br>
dar din<br>
> ce am inteles calitatea datelor este foarte buna.<br>
><br>
> Numai bine,<br>
> Ciprian<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Ciprian Talaba<br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:cipriantalaba@gmail.com" target="_blank">cipriantalaba@gmail.com</a>>>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Sa readucem un pin subiectul in actualitate. Asa cum cred<br>
ca am<br>
> mentionat pe unul din subiectele legate de CLC, am trimis o<br>
> intrebare catre EEA pentru a afla cand vor fi disponibile<br>
datele<br>
> CLC2006 in format vectorial (Stefan a utilizat ultimele date<br>
> vectoriale, CLC2000). Daca CLC2006 va fi publicat pana la<br>
sfarsitul<br>
> lui aprilie atunci merita sa mai asteptam cateva saptamani<br>
pentru ca<br>
> din ce stiu noile date sunt mult mai precise. Am sa incerc sa<br>
fac si<br>
> o comparatie, sa vad ce pot face cu raster-ul.<br>
><br>
> Binenteles intre timp putem sa discutam variantele deja<br>
propuse<br>
> pentru import sau sa ne gandim la unelte care ne pot ajuta sa<br>
> automatizam acest import :)<br>
><br>
> O zi buna,<br>
> Ciprian<br>
><br>
> ==============================================<br>
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> Dear Ciprian Talaba,<br>
> Thank you for your enquiry and your interest in CORINE data.<br>
> The EEA is the EU agency responsible for producing aggregated<br>
> information on the state and trends of the environment in<br>
Europe.<br>
> For more information on the activities of the EEA, please<br>
see the<br>
> following websites:<br>
> _www.eea.europa.eu_ <<a href="http://www.eea.europa.eu/" target="_blank">http://www.eea.europa.eu/</a>><br>
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Version 13 of<br>
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> For further information about the CLC2006 data from the<br>
missing<br>
> countries, you may find it relevant to contact the<br>
responsible<br>
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utilise<br>
> the contact information for the NRC for landcover for the<br>
countries<br>
> of your interest. This information is available at:<br>
><br>
<br>
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> General information<br>
> From the EEA website, we have CORINE landcover data which is<br>
> available free of charge. The current data we have<br>
available for<br>
> landcover can be found at the following website:<br>
> _<a href="http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/landuse/datasets_" target="_blank">http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/landuse/datasets_</a><br>
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> The EEA EIONET GIS website includes guides on geographic<br>
information<br>
> from the EEA and also a link to free open source GIS<br>
software.<br>
> Please have a look at this information here:<br>
> _<a href="http://www.eionet.europa.eu/gis_" target="_blank">http://www.eionet.europa.eu/gis_</a><br>
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