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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Salutare.<br>
      Atentionare apropo de numere. Pentru cine lucreaza pe harta in
      zona - majoritatea numerelor de adrese din Targu Mures sunt
      invalide. Nu au alocate <font color="#ff0000">addr:street</font>
      (nume de strada) si prin urmare la cautare pe gps dupa strada apoi
      numar - nu va gasi niciun numar , neavand alocat numele strazii pe
      care ar trebui gasit... <br>
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      On 15.04.2013 20:38, Francisc TOTH wrote:<br>
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        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.hdyc.neis-one.org/?GabrielSebastianMoise">http://www.hdyc.neis-one.org/?GabrielSebastianMoise</a><br>
        Zero trackuri? Sa fim seriosi.<br>
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        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.hdyc.neis-one.org/?Asztalos%20Attila%20Oszk%C3%A1r">http://www.hdyc.neis-one.org/?Asztalos%20Attila%20Oszk%C3%A1r</a><br>
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                    style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Gabriel
                Sebastian Moise <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:GabrielSebastianMoise@gmail.com"><GabrielSebastianMoise@gmail.com></a><br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:talk-ro@openstreetmap.org">talk-ro@openstreetmap.org</a> <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                Monday, April 15, 2013 6:33 PM<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                Re: [Talk-ro] Dej (CJ) vandalizat sau vechea problema cu
                licenta ?<br>
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                  <div>Se pare ca n-ai inteles care-i treaba cu
                    apelativul "Mah".  In fine, se pare ca n-ai cu cine
                    cand e vorba de persoana ta. Poate inca nu am reusit
                    sa-ti ajung pana la nas.  Imi vad de treaba mea.  Nu
                    obliga nimeni pe nimeni cu nimic legat de OSM. 
                    Pentru mine e o placere, un hobby, un al doilea loc
                    de munca.   In locul primar de munca, pot face si
                    alte activitati. Imi permite functia.... deci tocmai
                    d'aia am posibilitatea sa fac 6 sau 8 ore pe zi.   
                    TImpul meu imi permite sa am si viata personala si
                    toate cele......  Legat de concurs, nu e nici unul. 
                    Da daca tot aduci vorba si nu stii de gluma, si alte
                    lucruri, iti suflu-n ceafa, dupa doar 2 luni de
                    munca la modul mai serios, fata de tine in 4
                    ani.....        Si poate nu te super de faza cu
                    concursul ca a fost iar in mod haios, pentru
                    inveselirea atmosferei...<br>
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                      In rest va urez toate cele bune...... <br>
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                  <div class="yiv2146705737gmail_quote">În data de 15
                    aprilie 2013, 18:25, Attila Asztalos [via GIS] <span
                      dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href=""
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                    scris:<br>
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                      <div>+1 pentru Francisc, cu mentiunea ca a
                        introduce date incomplete si a strica date
                        corecte (chiar din greseala) sunt evident
                        lucruri diferite, prima e ok, a doua not so
                        much.
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                          On 15-Apr-2013 17:20, Gabriel Sebastian Moise
                          wrote:<br>
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                                <div>Mah, da-ti place sa dai la
                                  temelie....... :))  Faza e nasola cu
                                  stersu dupa ce am bagat cu Razvan o
                                  droaie prin tara. Am refacut orase
                                  intregi, am repozitionat orase, cu tot
                                  cu cladiri, pus limite pe fiecare
                                  strada, nr lane, sensuri unice, , tip
                                  pavaj etc......  Repozitionat rauri,
                                  cursuri de ape.... Ieri am mers la
                                  Buzau, si m-am trezit ca la
                                  intersecita DN1B, cu DN2, s-a trantit
                                  un ditamai sensul giratoriu. In 
                                  urmatoarea ora, deja era pus pe
                                  harta.  <br>
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                                      Nu stiu altii cum sunt, dar
                                impreuna cu Razvan , ne putem numi
                                Adevarati Maniaci, in a corecta, a
                                verifica , si a face ceea ce lipseste. 
                                Daca el a luat la mana principalele zone
                                de interes, fie ele turistice sau doar
                                de tranzit, eu mi-am luat o mare parte
                                din judet la mana (Prahova),  si m-am
                                indreptat catre Moldova, unde am facut o
                                droaie pe acolo, de-alungul drumurilor
                                principale.  <br>
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                                  Dupa ce termin DJ203K, DJ203L. Dupa ce
                              termin , iau la mana tot Orasul Buzau, si
                              apoi iau DN10 la mana cu toate
                              localitatile .<br>
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                               Noi bagam pe harta cel putin 6 ore pe
                            zi.    Voi cu ce va laudati ?!?!?!  :P     
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                      Cu faptul ca nu apelam necunoscuti cu "Mah" nici
                      macar in gluma, si ca avem o viata de trait in
                      afara camerei cu PC-ul. Nu stiam ca e un
                      concurs...<br>
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                      Regards,<br>
                          - Attila<br>
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                          <div class="yiv2146705737gmail_quote">În data
                            de 15 aprilie 2013, 17:01, Francisc TOTH
                            [via GIS] <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                      helvetica, sans-serif;">A mai fost
                                      discutia de multe ori.</div>
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                                        nu poate face cartografia
                                        complet 100% din prima. Sa faca
                                        si GPX, si sa noteze toate
                                        limitele de viteza privind din
                                        Bing(cum fac asta???), si lanes,
                                        surface, sa puna podete totul
                                        totul. Acum cativa ani (2008) ne
                                        bucuram daca cineva ne dona
                                        niste GPX-uri fara nimic
                                        altceva, acum avem o harta si
                                        bing si nu ar fi ok sa incepem
                                        sa "elitizam" toata treaba asta,
                                        sa eliminam incepatorii si pe
                                        cei care baga date incomplete.
                                        In continuare un GPX e
                                        binevenit, sau completari pe
                                        parcurs.  Adica nu e ok ca o
                                        contributie sa fie binevenita,
                                        insa doar pana la aparitia unei
                                        surse autoritative si de
                                        calitate care o elimina pe
                                        prima. Daca putem corecta ceva,
                                        corectam si astfel harta devine
                                        mai buna, dar nu ne enervam ca
                                        au fost date putin gresite.
                                        Poate intre timp au fost utile
                                        cuiva asa incomplete cum erau. 
                                        Cand ti-e sete, ai pe GPS un
                                        izvor, il gasesti si bei apa, nu
                                        te revolti ca nu avea completat
                                        corect tag-ul "name", ca e
                                        spring si nu amenity=water.
                                        Astea se corecteaza pe parcurs.
                                        Wiki inseamna ca si nestiutorii
                                        pot avea acces, fiindca pe
                                        strada lui el e cel mai stiutor.<br>
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                                      style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,
                                      helvetica, sans-serif;"><span>M-ar
                                        bucura sa apara "adevaratii
                                        profesionisti" sa bage corect si
                                        complet 100% as sta atunci cu
                                        paharul de suc in fata si cand
                                        ar termina le-as aduce aminte si
                                        de drumurile forestiere :-) 
                                        Datele sunt perfectibile, in
                                        conditiile in care fiecare cand
                                        pune ceva, o face in cunostinta
                                        de cauza si corect pe acel
                                        sector. <br>
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                                    <span>A disparut destul de mult cu
                                      schimbarea de licenta si e
                                      frustrant, asta e, nu avem ce
                                      face, refacem.<br>
                                      Important e doar sa nu se distruga
                                      existentul, iar aici cantecul e
                                      vechi, chapter, chapter<br>
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                                    <div>Toate cele bune,<br>
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                                            Razvan <<a
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                                            alex-map <<a
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                                            <b><span
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                                            OSM Romania <<a
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                                            <b><span
                                                style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                                            Monday, April 15, 2013 2:57
                                            PM<br>
                                            <b><span
                                                style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                                            Re: [Talk-ro] Dej (CJ)
                                            vandalizat sau vechea
                                            problema cu licenta ?<br>
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                                                  <div>Te pot contrazice
                                                    la google. Este
                                                    facuta dupa aceeasi
                                                    tehnica , mult si
                                                    prost. Au alergat
                                                    toti nestiutorii sa
                                                    traga linii peste
                                                    tot doar sa apara
                                                    ca  strazi. Cel
                                                    putin in bucuresti
                                                    nu au nici macar
                                                    jumatate din cate
                                                    sensuri unice sunt
                                                    trecute pe OSM. Din
                                                    pacate...<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    On 15.04.2013 14:13,
                                                    alex-map wrote:<br>
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                                                    in Romania e ca
                                                    suntem doar o mana
                                                    de oameni de aceea
                                                    se avanseaza foarte
                                                    incet. O alta
                                                    problema este simtul
                                                    scazut pentru
                                                    calitate al multor
                                                    contribuitori, asta
                                                    poate duce la
                                                    editari duble si
                                                    asta este pacat
                                                    pentru timpul
                                                    irosit, si eu am
                                                    facut de mai multe
                                                    ori apel la cei care
                                                    folosesc imabinile
                                                    bing sa se aplece
                                                    asupra calitatii
                                                    char daca cantitatea
                                                    de date introduse
                                                    scade. Am fost
                                                    oarecum placut
                                                    surprins de avansul
                                                    facut de google in
                                                    ultimul timp
                                                    (calitativ), Stie
                                                    cineva daca au in
                                                    spate si servicii
                                                    profesionale sau
                                                    doar pe baza
                                                    voluntarilor
                                                    asociati la
                                                    mapmaker?<br>
                                                    La nemti nu trebuie
                                                    sa te uiti, ca sunt
                                                    multi mai multi si
                                                    cantitatea de efort
                                                    pe user este mai
                                                    muca dar acoperirea
                                                    in multe zone urbane
                                                    aglomerate este
                                                    aproape ideala.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Am Donnerstag, 11.
                                                    April 2013 08:02:48
                                                    UTC+2 schrieb
                                                    Razvan:
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                                                        <div>On
                                                          11.04.2013
                                                          00:08, Gabriel
                                                          Sebastian
                                                          Moise wrote:<br>
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                                                          <pre>Da, dar problema e ca tot tre sa le iei la mana, sa pui limite de viteza, nr
de lane-uri, tipul drumului, daca e asfaltat sau in alta stare..... tot e
munca...</pre>
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                                                        Da si eu
                                                        consider ca este
                                                        cel mai bine ca
                                                        macar de acum
                                                        incolo ce se
                                                        cartografiaza sa
                                                        se faca cum
                                                        trebuie cu nr.
                                                        de lane, tip de
                                                        pavaj si limite
                                                        de viteza, nu
                                                        ceva gen
                                                        cooperativa in
                                                        zadar unde altul
                                                        sa vina sa o ia
                                                        la mana din nou
                                                        si sa munceasca
                                                        <u>din nou</u>
                                                        ca sa faca cum
                                                        trebuie ceea ce
                                                        altii au facut
                                                        pe jumatate.
                                                        Aici se vede
                                                        diferenta intre
                                                        oameni - faceti
                                                        comparatia intre
                                                        nemti si noi si
                                                        pana si la harti
                                                        stau mai bine .
                                                        Aruncati doar o
                                                        privire
                                                        aleatoriu orinde
                                                        pe harta
                                                        germaniei si o
                                                        sa vedeti despre
                                                        ce vorbesc. La
                                                        noi mai degraba
                                                        unii s-ar distra
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