<div dir="ltr">I have changed [1] the remaining sections of A90/A199/A8 road through Edinburgh from trunk to primary (keeping _link as appropriate). I think these clearly do not meet the description on the wiki of being motorway standard roads, and they are no longer on the government's list of trunk roads. This presumably means any remaining green signs will be replaced in due course.<div><br></div><div>I have left 2 sections as trunk for now, that are not on the list of trunk roads:</div><div>1. The A90 between the M90 spur and Cramond Brig.</div><div>2. The A702 city bypass between the A8 and the M8/Hermiston junction.</div><div><br></div><div>Both of these are key dual carriageway routes, where cycling is not allowed, so could be taken as almost motorway standard. Any further thoughts on these sections?</div><div><br></div><div>regards, Donald </div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/38081751">http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/38081751</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 at 21:28 Michael Booth <<a href="mailto:boothym@gmail.com">boothym@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>According to the wiki and talk-gb
posts, the distinction between trunk and primary is to do with
green v white signed routes.
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines#UK_roads" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines#UK_roads</a><br>
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My memory of that part of Edinburgh is a bit fuzzy so forgive me
for looking at google street view. If you go west on the A902 from
the Crewe Toll roundabout there are a few green signs, but also
some white signs - especially going eastbound. But it's clear that
the A902 and A199 aren't what you would class as the second most
important roads on the network - they look like primary roads to
me. <br>
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If you compare the Transport Scotland trunk road map to the OSM
map, it is identical except for the roads in question going
through Edinburgh. I'm not sure if that is the case in the rest of
the UK - should we just be copying the trunk road maps or going by
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On 19/03/2016 10:16, Donald Noble wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><span><span>A recent</span></span><span> note from </span>GinaroZ
[1]<font color="#222222" face="Helvetica Neue, Arial,
sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12px"> highlights a short
section of Queensferry road is set to highway=trunk whereas
most of it is primary. This short bit at the junction
appears to have been missed missed in a changeset [2] by
acsimpson "</span></font><span>Correcting Trunk roads
to Primary Roads around West Edinburgh</span><span>".</span>
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<div><font color="#222222" face="Helvetica Neue, Arial,
sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12px">Having looked again
at the wii for Trunk roads [3], I propose that we should
reclassify the sections of the A90, A902 and A199 within
the city that are largely bordered by houses to be
highway=primary. These are important routes, but not "</span></font><span>high performance
roads that don't meet the requirement for motorway".</span></div>
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<div><span><span>This would affect
this short stretch of the A90, the A902 (Telford/Ferry
Road), and the A199 from Leith to Brunstane. I think that
the north end of the dual </span></span><font color="#222222" face="Helvetica Neue, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12px">carriageway A1 ending in Brunstane
is a suitable end point for the Trunk road.</span></font></div>
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<div><font color="#222222" face="Helvetica Neue, Arial,
sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12px">Any comments
welcome, either here or on the note.</span></font></div>
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<div><span><span>Regards,
Donald</span></span></div>
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<div><span><span>[1] </span></span><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/529056#map=16/55.9611/-3.2875&layers=N" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/529056#map=16/55.9611/-3.2875&layers=N" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/529056#map=16/55.9611/-3.2875&layers=N</a></div>
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<div>[2] <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37078948" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37078948</a></div>
<div>[3] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrunk" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrunk</a> </div>
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