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<p>My thoughts would be...</p>
<p>a) you could argue that you are only taking the speed limit
information from the mapping, which probably wouldn't be seen as
copyright (coming from the council not the Ordnance Survey). I
doubt that anyone in the council has considered making this open
data... busy people etc.</p>
<p>b) BUT I suspect that there may be variation on the ground in
terms of where speed limits actually change - that there may be
some considerable variation between what was planned at a high
level (and is therefore shown on the mapping) and exactly what
will have been installed. <br>
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<p>With b in mind I'd tend to want to do a survey based on the
mapping... but I must admit to being more daunted than for
Edinburgh's city centre 20mph zone. Could someone draw a polygon
(saved in appropriate format - e.g. kml) to define where the edges
of the zones should be? That would make it a more realistic
prospect to survey. The city centre survey became complex where
there were existing 20mph zones - one zone merging into another.
I'd guess the potential for the same this time is greater.<br>
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<p>Robert<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/03/2017 18:52, Donald Noble
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<div dir="ltr">Well the next section of this roll out (phases 2
& 3) should now be in force, so it would be good to get the
map updated...
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<div>I have just updated the streets in Marchmont I know have
changed [1], but have not done any on the ground surveys yet
to cover the wider extents. </div>
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<div>I cannot find a list of streets that are covered by the new
limits, which would presumably be open data. The council GIS
portal [2] that shows all the streets that have/will change
does not have any copyright information on it.</div>
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<div>What are people's thoughts on whether this dataset is
appropriate to update OSM, or does it need an on the ground
survey to check?</div>
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<div>Cheers, Donald<br>
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<div>[1] although I think there are still a few signs to sort,
notably at the southend on Blackford Avenue, which I have
reported as missing.</div>
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<div>[2] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://edinburghcouncil.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=ca131eddb0084197b160edbbad2ca8c7">http://edinburghcouncil.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=ca131eddb0084197b160edbbad2ca8c7</a> </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 at 11:33 Robert Weetman
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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created an Overpass query to show the live speed limit
data. See here:<br class="gmail_msg">
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href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/hAJ" rel="noreferrer"
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On 26/07/2016 15:03, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:me@chrisfleming.org" class="gmail_msg"
target="_blank">me@chrisfleming.org</a> wrote:<br
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> I've just realised that the 20mph limits in the
first 2 zones in<br class="gmail_msg">
> Edinburgh come into force from the 31st of July.<br
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> Given that the signs are now in place, I think it
would make sense to<br class="gmail_msg">
> try and map as much of the change by/on the 31st
July.<br class="gmail_msg">
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> To try and co-ordinate things I've setup a tasking
manager and added a<br class="gmail_msg">
> task for the city centre zone at:<br
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> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://tasks.openstreetmapscotland.org/"
rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://tasks.openstreetmapscotland.org/</a><br
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> If this is useful, then I will add the Queensferry
Square.<br class="gmail_msg">
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> ITO maps have a map of current speed limits at:<br
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> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://product.itoworld.com/map/124?lon=-3.20365&lat=55.94420&zoom=13"
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> more info on the changes on the council website:<br
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> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/20243/20mph_for_edinburgh/1024/about_20mph_for_edinburgh"
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> (at some stage they had a list of streets on the
website, although I<br class="gmail_msg">
> can't find it at the moment)<br class="gmail_msg">
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> Cheers<br class="gmail_msg">
> Chris<br class="gmail_msg">
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