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    <p>My thoughts would be...</p>
    <p>a) you could argue that you are only taking the speed limit
      information from the mapping, which probably wouldn't be seen as
      copyright (coming from the council not the Ordnance Survey). I
      doubt that anyone in the council has considered making this open
      data... busy people etc.</p>
    <p>b) BUT I suspect that there may be variation on the ground in
      terms of where speed limits actually change - that there may be
      some considerable variation between what was planned at a high
      level (and is therefore shown on the mapping) and exactly what
      will have been installed. <br>
    </p>
    <p>With b in mind I'd tend to want to do a survey based on the
      mapping... but I must admit to being more daunted than for
      Edinburgh's city centre 20mph zone. Could someone draw a polygon
      (saved in appropriate format - e.g. kml) to define where the edges
      of the zones should be? That would make it a more realistic
      prospect to survey. The city centre survey became complex where
      there were existing 20mph zones - one zone merging into another.
      I'd guess the potential for the same this time is greater.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Robert<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/03/2017 18:52, Donald Noble
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CANcme-aJMHss=zftvhKpAYZWthyDnVsRUZuynd2in4EsccfL_A@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Well the next section of this roll out (phases 2
        & 3) should now be in force, so it would be good to get the
        map updated...
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I have just updated the streets in Marchmont I know have
          changed [1], but have not done any on the ground surveys yet
          to cover the wider extents. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I cannot find a list of streets that are covered by the new
          limits, which would presumably be open data. The council GIS
          portal [2] that shows all the streets that have/will change
          does not have any copyright information on it.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>What are people's thoughts on whether this dataset is
          appropriate to update OSM, or does it need an on the ground
          survey to check?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Cheers, Donald<br>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>[1] although I think there are still a few signs to sort,
            notably at the southend on Blackford Avenue, which I have
            reported as missing.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>[2] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://edinburghcouncil.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=ca131eddb0084197b160edbbad2ca8c7">http://edinburghcouncil.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=ca131eddb0084197b160edbbad2ca8c7</a> </div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">
              <div dir="ltr">On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 at 11:33 Robert Weetman
                <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:robert.wtman.88@gmail.com">robert.wtman.88@gmail.com</a>>
                wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I've
                created an Overpass query to show the live speed limit
                data. See here:<br class="gmail_msg">
                <br class="gmail_msg">
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/hAJ" rel="noreferrer"
                  class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/hAJ</a><br
                  class="gmail_msg">
                <br class="gmail_msg">
                <br class="gmail_msg">
                <br class="gmail_msg">
                On 26/07/2016 15:03, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:me@chrisfleming.org" class="gmail_msg"
                  target="_blank">me@chrisfleming.org</a> wrote:<br
                  class="gmail_msg">
                > I've just realised that the 20mph limits in the
                first 2 zones in<br class="gmail_msg">
                > Edinburgh come into force from the 31st of July.<br
                  class="gmail_msg">
                ><br class="gmail_msg">
                > Given that the signs are now in place, I think it
                would make sense to<br class="gmail_msg">
                > try and map as much of the change by/on the 31st
                July.<br class="gmail_msg">
                ><br class="gmail_msg">
                > To try and co-ordinate things I've setup a tasking
                manager and added a<br class="gmail_msg">
                > task for the city centre zone at:<br
                  class="gmail_msg">
                > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://tasks.openstreetmapscotland.org/"
                  rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://tasks.openstreetmapscotland.org/</a><br
                  class="gmail_msg">
                ><br class="gmail_msg">
                > If this is useful, then I will add the Queensferry
                Square.<br class="gmail_msg">
                ><br class="gmail_msg">
                > ITO maps have a map of current speed limits at:<br
                  class="gmail_msg">
                > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://product.itoworld.com/map/124?lon=-3.20365&lat=55.94420&zoom=13"
                  rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://product.itoworld.com/map/124?lon=-3.20365&lat=55.94420&zoom=13</a><br
                  class="gmail_msg">
                ><br class="gmail_msg">
                > more info on the changes on the council website:<br
                  class="gmail_msg">
                > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/20243/20mph_for_edinburgh/1024/about_20mph_for_edinburgh"
                  rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/20243/20mph_for_edinburgh/1024/about_20mph_for_edinburgh</a><br
                  class="gmail_msg">
                ><br class="gmail_msg">
                > (at some stage they had a list of streets on the
                website, although I<br class="gmail_msg">
                > can't find it at the moment)<br class="gmail_msg">
                ><br class="gmail_msg">
                > Cheers<br class="gmail_msg">
                > Chris<br class="gmail_msg">
                ><br class="gmail_msg">
                > _______________________________________________<br
                  class="gmail_msg">
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