<div dir="ltr">I've now setup a task for zone 2 convering the Northern half of the zone. I ended up with some larger chunks, but decided better to get it out.<div><br></div><div><a href="http://tasks.openstreetmapscotland.org/project/5">http://tasks.openstreetmapscotland.org/project/5</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Chris <br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 at 23:41 Donald Noble <<a href="mailto:drnoble@gmail.com">drnoble@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thanks a lot Chris,<br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">I like the way you've split the tasks, looks pretty sensible to me. I agree that people can just comment they are going to survey an area or 2 or part as appropriate, then come back and work on it later.<br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">Main issue is this just covers area 3 (although there is a chunk south of Cluny gardens missing). There's also another area of similar side covering north Edinburgh. Is it possible to add these too?<br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">Cheers, Donald<br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 at 22:23, <<a href="mailto:me@chrisfleming.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">me@chrisfleming.org</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br class="gmail_msg">
Cool I've divided all of zone 3 into small chunks, generally following<br class="gmail_msg">
natural boundaries.<br class="gmail_msg">
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This is at: <a href="http://tasks.openstreetmapscotland.org/project/4" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://tasks.openstreetmapscotland.org/project/4</a><br class="gmail_msg">
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One thing I've noted is that the tasker isn't really designed around<br class="gmail_msg">
choose an area, go out survey and then map it, as the timeouts for<br class="gmail_msg">
locking an area is quite short (2 hours maybe). Also it's only possible<br class="gmail_msg">
to lock a single area.<br class="gmail_msg">
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But it is possible to add a comment so that probably is enough to work<br class="gmail_msg">
out who is planning on or working on an area.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Also suggest that once we get this up and running we publicise it on the<br class="gmail_msg">
cycle forum, lots of 20mph chat and quite a few people have been mapping<br class="gmail_msg">
cycle parking.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Cheers<br class="gmail_msg">
Chris<br class="gmail_msg">
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On 02/03/17 at 07:14pm, Donald wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
> Thanks for the comments.<br class="gmail_msg">
> Having had a look at a few more roads in Morningside on a detoured route<br class="gmail_msg">
> back from uni tonight, I tend to agree with needing to survey this. There<br class="gmail_msg">
> are some differences with the online GIS, e.g. west end of Cluny Gardens,<br class="gmail_msg">
> and there is no signage on Merchiston Bank Avenue which joins onto a 30mph<br class="gmail_msg">
> road, despite it being shown blue. I would be surprised if anyone could do<br class="gmail_msg">
> 30 on this dead end street though!<br class="gmail_msg">
> With that in mind, it would be nice if you could set up the task Chris, so<br class="gmail_msg">
> that we can co-ordinate efforts. As Robert says, this is more daunting<br class="gmail_msg">
> than the previous one! I have logged in to the task manager, but not done<br class="gmail_msg">
> anything yet.<br class="gmail_msg">
> As for copyright, I don't think there should be any issues with using the<br class="gmail_msg">
> council map as a list of streets to check. It might be possible to get<br class="gmail_msg">
> this from the council, or scrape the TROs, but that will delay things a<br class="gmail_msg">
> lot.<br class="gmail_msg">
> Cheers, Donald <br class="gmail_msg">
> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 at 14:37 <[1]<a href="mailto:me@chrisfleming.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">me@chrisfleming.org</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> I think I would tend to agree with Robert, ideally we would seek<br class="gmail_msg">
> permission to use the street list from the council. But there is merit<br class="gmail_msg">
> in surveying, to get thing exactly right.<br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> I have my tasking manager up and running again, and have been having a<br class="gmail_msg">
> play with polygon based task shaping, have a loom here:<br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> [2]<a href="http://tasks.openstreetmapscotland.org/project/2" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://tasks.openstreetmapscotland.org/project/2</a><br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> Basically, I created an .osm file. Then used [3]<a href="http://geojson.io/" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://geojson.io/</a> to<br class="gmail_msg">
> turn<br class="gmail_msg">
> it into a geojson file. Every polygone in that file in turn becomes a<br class="gmail_msg">
> task. So we can divide the zone into logical zones that people can<br class="gmail_msg">
> claim, survey and update.<br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> That way we won't duplicate effort and can ensure we cover the complete<br class="gmail_msg">
> zones.<br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> If we can agree that this is a good idea, then login to the task<br class="gmail_msg">
> manager, I will bump up your privilidges to create a new project. And or<br class="gmail_msg">
> I can<br class="gmail_msg">
> share my .osm file to finish divding up and create the task.<br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> Thoughts?<br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> Cheers<br class="gmail_msg">
> Chris<br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> On 01/03/17 at 10:25pm, Robert Weetman wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
> > My thoughts would be...<br class="gmail_msg">
> ><br class="gmail_msg">
> > a) you could argue that you are only taking the speed limit<br class="gmail_msg">
> information<br class="gmail_msg">
> > from the mapping, which probably wouldn't be seen as copyright<br class="gmail_msg">
> (coming<br class="gmail_msg">
> > from the council not the Ordnance Survey). I doubt that anyone in<br class="gmail_msg">
> the<br class="gmail_msg">
> > council has considered making this open data... busy people etc.<br class="gmail_msg">
> ><br class="gmail_msg">
> > b) BUT I suspect that there may be variation on the ground in terms<br class="gmail_msg">
> of<br class="gmail_msg">
> > where speed limits actually change - that there may be some<br class="gmail_msg">
> considerable<br class="gmail_msg">
> > variation between what was planned at a high level (and is<br class="gmail_msg">
> therefore shown<br class="gmail_msg">
> > on the mapping) and exactly what will have been installed.<br class="gmail_msg">
> ><br class="gmail_msg">
> > With b in mind I'd tend to want to do a survey based on the<br class="gmail_msg">
> mapping... but<br class="gmail_msg">
> > I must admit to being more daunted than for Edinburgh's city centre<br class="gmail_msg">
> 20mph<br class="gmail_msg">
> > zone. Could someone draw a polygon (saved in appropriate format -<br class="gmail_msg">
> e.g.<br class="gmail_msg">
> > kml) to define where the edges of the zones should be? That would<br class="gmail_msg">
> make it<br class="gmail_msg">
> > a more realistic prospect to survey. The city centre survey became<br class="gmail_msg">
> complex<br class="gmail_msg">
> > where there were existing 20mph zones - one zone merging into<br class="gmail_msg">
> another. I'd<br class="gmail_msg">
> > guess the potential for the same this time is greater.<br class="gmail_msg">
> ><br class="gmail_msg">
> > Robert<br class="gmail_msg">
> ><br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> References<br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> Visible links<br class="gmail_msg">
> 1. mailto:<a href="mailto:me@chrisfleming.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">me@chrisfleming.org</a><br class="gmail_msg">
> 2. <a href="http://tasks.openstreetmapscotland.org/project/2" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://tasks.openstreetmapscotland.org/project/2</a><br class="gmail_msg">
> 3. <a href="http://geojson.io/" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://geojson.io/</a><br class="gmail_msg">
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