<div dir="ltr"><div>highway=bus_stop & railway=tram_stop are well-established and do the basic job perfectly well</div><div> </div><div>some people decided they wanted a different system</div><div> </div><div>the value to the renderers of processing the new system is unclear at best; so they aren't likely to</div>
<div> </div><div>just add the established tags and be done with it</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Jo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:winfixit@gmail.com" target="_blank">winfixit@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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</div>I've been asking to render it for ages now and I gave up hope.<br></div>I also don't see why I would be double tagging though.<br><br></div>The problem is, of course, that in my route relations I do use the role platform, and JOSM's validator doesn't like that. So be it. It's annoying when this pops up in other people's sessions though and they start asking questions about it.<br>
<br></div>The icon you see in JOSM, is just an icon. The internal rendering rules give precedence to railway=tram_stop or public_transport=platform/tram=yes. That's not a problem.<br><br></div>No reason for separating them.<br>
<br></div>I do separate stops over different nodes when they belong to different operators though, because sometimes the zones differ, or the refs, or the names. I then combine them into a stop_area relation, together with a node public_transport=stop_position/bus=yes (as a node of the highway). I don't always create these and I never add them to the route relations.<br>
<br></div>The route relations are a pain to maintain, no need to make it even more complicated.<br><br></div>Polyglot<br><div><div><div><div><div><div><br><br><div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/12/9 Mike N <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:niceman@att.net" target="_blank">niceman@att.net</a>></span><br>
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On 12/9/2013 6:52 AM, Gilles Baumgartner wrote:<br>
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Is it ok to *add* the legacy tag<br>
highway <<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<u></u>org/wiki/Key:highway</a>>=bus_stop<br>
<<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_stop" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<u></u>org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_<u></u>stop</a>><div><br>
to be at the same time compliant with the new tags but still make the<br>
renderer show the bus stop?<br>
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I would recommend adding the legacy tag. This is because the public transport tagging scheme is in a long transition period. Eventually the map rendering rules will be modified to include the new scheme.<br>
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*2. Combined stops, e.g. tram and bus*<br>
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I'm not familiar with this problem; hopefully someone else will have a recommendation.<br>
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