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On 28/04/2019 17:13, DC Viennablog wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">...But in my opinion, as it stands, for bus or tram stops, these relations do not make that much sense. As any software should be able to find those connections between stops with the same name, the stop areas are quite redundent.</pre>
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Agreed<br>
Using a Vien example: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7463438">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7463438</a><br>
As each stop has a unifying name tag each stop can be found &
collected together.<br>
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Even when in a relation, routers still have to iterate each item to
find if the bus stop is on the correct street<br>
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Note this is also an example of public_transport=platform being
misused. There are no physical platforms, just a shelter with a
bench.<br>
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<pre wrap="">For bigger train stations, with differently named bus stops around it, that all belong to it in some way, a relation can be useful, but that case is quite rare.</pre>
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Disagree<br>
There is no connection, other than approximate location. They're
different modes of transport, different operators. <br>
A passenger may wish to continue their journey using a bus stop
hundreds of metres way, How far should this relation encompass?<br>
Bus passengers alighting aren't guaranteed to use the train station,
they may cross the road to get their hair cut.<br>
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<pre wrap=""> Usually the stations would have the same name. If I find the time, I might also write a tagging/relation sugesstion that would slightly unclutter the tagging, but as we know, there have been many such suggestions so far, and there is never a 100% consensus. But no harm in discussing it.</pre>
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Agreed<br>
It needs discussing as it's a bit of a mess right now.<br>
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Cheers<br>
DaveF<br>
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Kind Regards
RobinD. (emergency99)
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Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. April 2019 16:55:02
An: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics
Betreff: Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme
On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 at 16:29, Jarek Piórkowski <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jarek@piorkowski.ca"><jarek@piorkowski.ca></a> wrote:
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Oh cool - with routing and time estimates and all?
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Navigation while travelling doesn't seem to work yet (it says "public
transport navigation is currently in beta"), but it gives you a
preview of the route: walking route, where to get on and off the
vehicle, intermediate stops, estimated walking and driving time and
distance.
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