<html><head></head><body><div dir="auto">I'd use GTFS to define the schedule as that is far better suited to this, especially considering that the timetable can frequently change. <br><br>Having just the shape in OpenStreetMap is probably good enough.<br><br>Shaun</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto">On 9 December 2024 18:20:33 GMT, Aenet Anthony <aenetanthony@gmail.com> wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>I started using OSM fairly recently and one thing I've been working on in my city is improving the route relations for public transit (bus only in my city). This has included cleaning the ways included in the routes (such as including the entirety of roundabouts instead of just the portion used, having many gaps, roads out of order, or roads included multiple times when they should not be) as well as creating new relations when both outbound and inbound are mapped together or for route variants.</div><div><br></div><div>Now on the topic of route variants, I'm wondering what that best practice is for marking opening_hours (as mentioned on <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Buses#Step_2_-_Create_the_new_bus_relations">the Buses wiki page</a>), particularly when multiple buses may be at different points within the route when the opening_hours status changes from one to the other. <b><u>Should the time be based on when the first and last bus on the variant leave from the starting point or when there is the first difference between the two routes </u></b>(like the first time that the bus stops at one bus stop instead of another)? I tried to do some searching on the wiki, the old and new help forums, and the web in general, as well as looking at the guides on the wiki pages for public transit, the route relation page, and the buses page, but I was not able to find any specific advice on how I should map the hours (and I wasn't able to find a specific switch time from my transit agency either). </div><div><br></div><div>For reference, the bus route I am referring to initially departs the starting stop at 05:25, arriving at the first different stop at 05:53. Each bus on this route continues to depart for the variant until the last one
(in the morning) on the variant leaves at 07:55 and arrives at the first different stop at 08:23, ultimately reaching the final destination stop at 08:37. However, before that bus has arrived at the stop, the next bus on the route switches to the non-variant form of the route and departs at 08:10, reaching the first different stop at 08:42. It then continues on this route until the last bus (in the afternoon) on the main route departs at 15:34. The variant bus then departs at 15:46, running until the final variant bus (of the entire day) departs at 16:58, reaching its destination at 17:40. The main route bus departs again at 17:10 and continues until the last one on this route departs at 23:00 and finally reaches its destination at 23:35. For anyone wishing to look at this route themselves <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4271833">here is the master relation</a> and <a href="https://www.cata.org/schedules/01/1">here is my transit agency's schedule</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you,</div><div>Aenet<br></div></div>
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