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<DIV>不明瞭的是, 要政府 open data , 而 明明有 open data 了,卻還要浪費人加去建資料 ,不能用匯入的嗎 ?</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=shangkuanlc@gmail.com
href="mailto:shangkuanlc@gmail.com">Liang-chih Shang Kuan</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 02, 2013 8:47 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=talk-tw@openstreetmap.org
href="mailto:talk-tw@openstreetmap.org">OSM Taiwan</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Talk-TW] Talk-TW Digest, Vol 33, Issue
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<DIV>好詳盡啊，又學到了不少</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>已經到etherpad裡新增了幾個點，像是中藥行、禮儀公司等（我家旁邊是第一殯儀館，一堆這種店哈哈哈），詳情可見這篇日記 <A
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Shangkuanlc/diary/18743">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Shangkuanlc/diary/18743</A>
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<DIV>上官<BR>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>2013/2/27 <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:talk-tw-request@openstreetmap.org"
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???? (Rex Tsai)<BR> 3. Re: ???????????tag (Dennis Raylin
Chen)<BR> 4. [Proposal] Taiwan local tags (???)<BR> 5.
Re: [Proposal] Taiwan local tags (Arne Goetje)<BR><BR><BR>---------- 轉寄訊息
----------<BR>From: 陳文振 <<A
href="mailto:openegret@gmail.com">openegret@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:talk-tw@openstreetmap.org">talk-tw@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>Cc:
<BR>Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:07:55 +0800<BR>Subject: [Talk-TW] Fwd: Talk-TW
Digest, Vol 33, Issue 23<BR>> 登山社群與山難救助協會。<BR>> 他們需要即時更新的圖資，而且人人有 GPS
device.<BR>><BR>> Regards<BR>> -Rex<BR>>
_______________________________________________<BR>台北中山北路有個登山社團,我可能可以安排,可以請誰去推廣演講?最好是會台語的人.要平常日迥三四的晚上<BR><BR><BR>--<BR>陳文振0922-521026<BR><A
href="mailto:openegret@gmail.com">openegret@gmail.com</A><BR>每月第一個週六免費導覽田寮洋<BR>每月第三個週六免費導覽中研院<BR>每月第二個週二UPTaipei電腦聚會<BR><A
href="http://egret-bunjinw.blogspot.com/"
target=_blank>http://egret-bunjinw.blogspot.com/</A><BR><BR><BR>----------
轉寄訊息 ----------<BR>From: Rex Tsai <<A
href="mailto:chihchun@kalug.linux.org.tw">chihchun@kalug.linux.org.tw</A>><BR>To:
Louis Liu <<A
href="mailto:pttdog@gmail.com">pttdog@gmail.com</A>><BR>Cc: OSM Taiwan
<<A
href="mailto:talk-tw@openstreetmap.org">talk-tw@openstreetmap.org</A>><BR>Date:
Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:39:08 +0800<BR>Subject: Re: [Talk-TW] OSM Taiwan 的下一步<BR>在
2013年2月26日下午1:52，Louis Liu <<A
href="mailto:pttdog@gmail.com">pttdog@gmail.com</A>> 寫道：<BR>><BR>>
目前的 renderer 其實都有點複雜，或許支援 NGO 和其他終端使用者產生圖?<BR>>
當然最後還是要交他們自己釣魚，但是初期還在克服技術難題的時候可以幫忙<BR>><BR>> 同時想到先前提到幹部的問題，可以先成立一個
"技術研究小組" 來搞定這些東西<BR><BR><BR>附議成立技術小組。(Rex 是最需要被幫忙的人
:p)<BR><BR>Regards<BR>-Rex<BR><BR><BR>---------- 轉寄訊息 ----------<BR>From:
Dennis Raylin Chen <<A
href="mailto:b92612009@gmail.com">b92612009@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: deng
dongpo <<A
href="mailto:dongpo.deng@gmail.com">dongpo.deng@gmail.com</A>><BR>Cc: "<A
href="http://OSM.TW">OSM.TW</A>" <<A
href="mailto:talk-tw@openstreetmap.org">talk-tw@openstreetmap.org</A>><BR>Date:
Tue, 26 Feb 2013 23:23:02 +0800<BR>Subject: Re: [Talk-TW]
跟人生最後一里路有關的tag<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>2013/2/26 deng dongpo <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:dongpo.deng@gmail.com"
target=_blank>dongpo.deng@gmail.com</A>></SPAN><BR>
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class=gmail_quote>>> 先前也與上官討論到靈骨塔的tag<BR>>> <A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcrematorium"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcrematorium</A><BR><BR>crematorium
是指火葬場，和靈骨塔完全不一樣。而靈骨塔就是墓園，只是building 型態。<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV>原來我搞錯了</DIV>
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class=gmail_quote>>>
不過我有個疑問：做墓地工程的可不可以用這個tag?<BR>不懂這是什麼？做墓地工程的“什麼”，人嗎？ 土公仔？<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV> </DIV>我指的是墓園旁常見的包工程行
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<DIV>起造墓塚、撿骨，遷葬的工程 </DIV>
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class=gmail_quote><BR>local tag 一直是討論的重點<BR>日本也有這樣的問題<BR><A
href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-February/005995.html"
target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-February/005995.html</A><BR><BR>許多tag
和台灣有關，可以直接用。<BR><BR>提個建議，大家是否把資料集合到pad上<BR><A
href="http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags"
target=_blank>http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags</A><BR><BR>待完整了，再放上OSM
wiki，還是讓wiki連這個頁面。<BR><BR>＜温泉＞<BR><BR>温泉、源泉（提案中）<BR>leisure=hot_spring<BR><A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring</A><BR><BR>温泉旅館<BR>amenity=guest_house<BR>hot_spring=yes<BR><BR>温泉區、温泉街<BR>place=suburb<BR>hot_spring=yes<BR>name=北投温泉<BR><BR><BR><BR>彩券店<BR>amenity=gambling
(提案中)<BR>gambling=lottery (提案中)<BR><BR>柏青哥店<BR>amenity=gambling
（提案中）<BR>gambling=pachinko （提案中）<BR><BR>檳榔店
(建議用法，需再確認）<BR>shop=deli<BR>production=betel nuts<BR><BR>泡沬紅茶
(建議用法，需再確認）<BR>shop=beverages<BR>name=***<BR><BR>卡啦OK店（提案中）<BR>amenity=karaoke_box<BR><BR>電子遊樂場<BR>amenity=video_arcade<BR><BR>米店（提案檢討中）<BR>shop=rice<BR><BR>自動碾米場<BR>amenity=vending_machine<BR>vending=rice_polishing<BR><BR>戶外吸煙區<BR>smoking:outside=yes<BR><BR>路邊停車<BR>parking:lane:both=left/right/both<BR><SPAN><FONT
color=#888888><BR><BR><BR>dongpo<BR></FONT></SPAN>
<DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM, 李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di <<A
href="mailto:mcdlee@gmail.com" target=_blank>mcdlee@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> 借一下標題，菲律賓的朋友有整理一個頁面分門別類整理常見的 POIs<BR>><BR>> <A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Mapping_conventions"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Mapping_conventions</A><BR>><BR>>
在 2013年2月26日上午9:21，Dennis Raylin Chen <<A
href="mailto:b92612009@gmail.com" target=_blank>b92612009@gmail.com</A>>
寫道：<BR>>> Hi Mappers<BR>>><BR>>>
可能大家都很熟悉圈墓園、墓地相關的tag<BR>>> <A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dcemetery"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dcemetery</A><BR>>><BR>>>
先前也與上官討論到靈骨塔的tag<BR>>> <A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcrematorium"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcrematorium</A><BR>>><BR>>>
不過可能不知道「禮儀公司」的tag<BR>>> <A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfuneral_directors"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfuneral_directors</A><BR>>><BR>>>
不過我有個疑問：做墓地工程的可不可以用這個tag?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
Supaplex/Dennis<BR>>><BR>>>
_______________________________________________<BR>>> Talk-TW mailing
list<BR>>> <A href="mailto:Talk-TW@openstreetmap.org"
target=_blank>Talk-TW@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>>> <A
href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw"
target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw</A><BR>>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
--<BR>> 李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di | <A href="http://www.mcdlee.tw"
target=_blank>http://www.mcdlee.tw</A><BR>>
_______________________________________________<BR>> Talk-TW mailing
list<BR>> <A href="mailto:Talk-TW@openstreetmap.org"
target=_blank>Talk-TW@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>> <A
href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw"
target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw</A><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><BR>----------
轉寄訊息 ----------<BR>From: "李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di" <<A
href="mailto:mcdlee@gmail.com">mcdlee@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: deng dongpo
<<A
href="mailto:dongpo.deng@gmail.com">dongpo.deng@gmail.com</A>><BR>Cc: "<A
href="http://OSM.TW">OSM.TW</A>" <<A
href="mailto:talk-tw@openstreetmap.org">talk-tw@openstreetmap.org</A>><BR>Date:
Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:38:28 +0800<BR>Subject: [Talk-TW] [Proposal] Taiwan local
tags<BR>重開一個標題<BR><BR><A
href="http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags"
target=_blank>http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags</A><BR><BR>在
2013年2月26日下午5:09，deng dongpo <<A
href="mailto:dongpo.deng@gmail.com">dongpo.deng@gmail.com</A>> 寫道：<BR>>
local tag 一直是討論的重點<BR>> 日本也有這樣的問題<BR>> <A
href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-February/005995.html"
target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-February/005995.html</A><BR>>
許多tag 和台灣有關，可以直接用。<BR>><BR>> 提個建議，大家是否把資料集合到pad上<BR>> <A
href="http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags"
target=_blank>http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags</A><BR>><BR>>
待完整了，再放上OSM wiki，還是讓wiki連這個頁面。<BR>><BR>> ＜温泉＞<BR>><BR>>
温泉、源泉（提案中）<BR>> leisure=hot_spring<BR>> <A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring</A><BR>><BR>>
温泉旅館<BR>> amenity=guest_house<BR>> hot_spring=yes<BR>><BR>>
温泉區、温泉街<BR>> place=suburb<BR>> hot_spring=yes<BR>>
name=北投温泉<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> 彩券店<BR>> amenity=gambling
(提案中)<BR>> gambling=lottery (提案中)<BR>><BR>> 柏青哥店<BR>>
amenity=gambling （提案中）<BR>> gambling=pachinko （提案中）<BR>><BR>> 檳榔店
(建議用法，需再確認）<BR>> shop=deli<BR>> production=betel nuts<BR>><BR>>
泡沬紅茶 (建議用法，需再確認）<BR>> shop=beverages<BR>> name=***<BR>><BR>>
卡啦OK店（提案中）<BR>> amenity=karaoke_box<BR>><BR>> 電子遊樂場<BR>>
amenity=video_arcade<BR>><BR>> 米店（提案檢討中）<BR>>
shop=rice<BR>><BR>> 自動碾米場<BR>> amenity=vending_machine<BR>>
vending=rice_polishing<BR>><BR>> 戶外吸煙區<BR>>
smoking:outside=yes<BR>><BR>> 路邊停車<BR>>
parking:lane:both=left/right/both<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
dongpo<BR>><BR>><BR>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM, 李昕迪 Lee,
Sin-di <<A href="mailto:mcdlee@gmail.com">mcdlee@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>> 借一下標題，菲律賓的朋友有整理一個頁面分門別類整理常見的 POIs<BR>>><BR>>>
<A href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Mapping_conventions"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Mapping_conventions</A><BR><BR>--<BR>李昕迪
Lee, Sin-di | <A href="http://www.mcdlee.tw"
target=_blank>http://www.mcdlee.tw</A><BR><BR><BR>---------- 轉寄訊息
----------<BR>From: Arne Goetje <<A
href="mailto:arne.goetje@gmail.com">arne.goetje@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:talk-tw@openstreetmap.org">talk-tw@openstreetmap.org</A><BR>Cc:
<BR>Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:19:12 +0800<BR>Subject: Re: [Talk-TW] [Proposal]
Taiwan local tags<BR>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<BR>Hash:
SHA1<BR><BR>On 02/27/2013 01:38 PM, 李昕迪 Lee, Sin-di wrote:<BR>>
重開一個標題<BR>><BR>> <A
href="http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags"
target=_blank>http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags</A><BR>><BR>>
在 2013年2月26日下午5:09，deng dongpo <<A
href="mailto:dongpo.deng@gmail.com">dongpo.deng@gmail.com</A>>
寫道：<BR>>> local tag 一直是討論的重點 日本也有這樣的問題<BR>>> <A
href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-February/005995.html"
target=_blank>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-February/005995.html</A><BR>>><BR>>><BR>許多tag
和台灣有關，可以直接用。<BR>>><BR>>> 提個建議，大家是否把資料集合到pad上<BR>>> <A
href="http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags"
target=_blank>http://pad.openstreetmap.tw:9001/taiwan-local-tags</A><BR>>><BR>>>
待完整了，再放上OSM wiki，還是讓wiki連這個頁面。<BR>>><BR>>>
＜温泉＞<BR>>><BR>>> 温泉、源泉（提案中） leisure=hot_spring<BR>>> <A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring"
target=_blank>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring</A><BR><BR>I
added this long time ago, but didn't follow up. Sorry.<BR>Question would be:
how to tag commercial hot springs and wild hot<BR>springs respectively?
Commercial hot springs are generally like<BR>swimming pools with private tubs,
while wild hot springs are not.<BR><BR>So maybe use natural=hot_spring for
wild ones and<BR>amenity=guest_house, hot_spring=yes for commercial
ones.<BR>leisure=hot_spring can maybe refer to public hot springs, which
are<BR>like pools, but free of charge and without guest houses. (Those
are<BR>rare nowadays).<BR><BR>Thoughts?<BR><BR>>><BR>>> 温泉旅館
amenity=guest_house hot_spring=yes<BR>>><BR>>> 温泉區、温泉街
place=suburb hot_spring=yes name=北投温泉<BR><BR>Why do we need this? Rather tag
the hot spring locations individually,<BR>not in the
area.<BR><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> 彩券店 amenity=gambling (提案中)
gambling=lottery (提案中)<BR>>><BR>>> 柏青哥店 amenity=gambling （提案中）
gambling=pachinko （提案中）<BR>>><BR>>> 檳榔店 (建議用法，需再確認） shop=deli
production=betel nuts<BR><BR>Are betel nuts a delicacy nowadays? ;)<BR>I would
rather classify them as road stands, since you can also buy<BR>drinks and
cigarettes there, not only betel nuts.<BR><BR>>><BR>>> 泡沬紅茶
(建議用法，需再確認） shop=beverages name=***<BR><BR>add beverages={tea, coffee,
soft_drinks, juice, mixed,<BR>{tea|coffee|juice}_blends, ...}<BR>separate
multiple values by semicolon.<BR><BR>Example:<BR>shop=beverages<BR>name=Coco
大興店<BR>operator=Coco (or whatever the official name of that company
is)<BR>beverages=tea_blends;coffee_blends;juice;mixed<BR><BR>>><BR>>>
卡啦OK店（提案中） amenity=karaoke_box<BR>>><BR>>> 電子遊樂場
amenity=video_arcade<BR>>><BR>>> 米店（提案檢討中）
shop=rice<BR>>><BR>>> 自動碾米場 amenity=vending_machine
vending=rice_polishing<BR>>><BR>>> 戶外吸煙區
smoking:outside=yes<BR><BR>Isn't smoking only banned inside buildings? That
would make the tag<BR>obsolete, no? Smoking is still allowed outside anywhere,
isn't it?<BR><BR>>><BR>>> 路邊停車
parking:lane:both=left/right/both<BR><BR>Aren't there tags available for
parking lanes already? Mark them<BR>individually alongside the
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