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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Tools:<br>
Server: in Gulu with BOSCO UG, Kamapla GIS Centre, backup outside
UG<br>
DB: Postgresql/Postgis<br>
GIS: TNTMips, gvSIG<br>
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But this the most uninteresting part!<br>
OSM: is OSM accurate (spatialy, semantic), uptodate and complete
in your region ? Are all the trees, stones etc mapped people are
talking about?<br>
Interesting discussion about GPS!!! How accurate do we need the
boundaries? What does is cost to deliver an accuracy of 0.5 m ,
what is realistic!<br>
What is your mandate? Who will support our 'information system'
over years? Who will update???<br>
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... just some thoughts!<br>
Karli<br>
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On 9/23/2014 6:35 PM, Kateregga Geoffrey wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the Responses
<div>From what we gathered on ground, people still use trees,
stones and paths as points of reference when determining where
the boundaries of their plots are. And the other issue is the
plots of land keep on reducing in size when a father
redistributes to his children.</div>
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<div>I think if we got information about ownership (Land Titles)
from the district land office and made it open where everyone
can access it. or even produce a map out of that information
using any other tools like QGIS then it can be a good starting
point. </div>
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<div>@Karl, what tools do you hope to use to build the
infomation system? </div>
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1. Re: Using OSM Mapping to solve land conflicts in
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(Bukulu Steven)<br>
2. Re: Using OSM Mapping to solve land conflicts in Rural
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(Krischan Makowka)<br>
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Rural Areas<br>
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 21:09:48 +0300<br>
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Thank you Geoffrey,<br>
<br>
My opinion would be, they record coordinates of different
land portions<br>
especially at the corners, have the recorded at the NGO's
headquarters and<br>
have them verified as a legal body where the locals can be
comfortable to<br>
seek such information from.<br>
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It's what I suggest.<br>
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Steven<br>
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> During the recently concluded Mapping Day road trip in
Eastern Uganda we<br>
> met an NGO who would like to use mapping to help solve
one of the biggest<br>
> problems in their community "Land Wrangles". What do
you think is the best<br>
> way to use OSM / Mapping to solve this problem?<br>
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 23:52:58 +0300<br>
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Hello,<br>
<br>
A colleague of mine who works at the Makerere GIS lab did
something<br>
quite similar with "regular" GIS 2 years or so ago.<br>
<br>
Send him a message if you want to know more: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:info@karl-tiller.de">info@karl-tiller.de</a><br>
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Personally I am doubtful if mapping will solve to underlying
resource<br>
conflicts and different livelihood styles, but it might be a
first step.<br>
Note though that any kind of formalization of land-owner
ship is<br>
ultimately a advantage for farmers (usually the richer ones)
and a<br>
disadvantage for pastoralists that depend on communal land
(especially<br>
the poorer ones).<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
-Kris<br>
<br>
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Am 22.09.2014 um 21:09 schrieb Bukulu Steven:<br>
> Thank you Geoffrey,<br>
><br>
> My opinion would be, they record coordinates of
different land portions<br>
> especially at the corners, have the recorded at the
NGO's headquarters<br>
> and have them verified as a legal body where the locals
can be<br>
> comfortable to seek such information from.<br>
><br>
> It's what I suggest.<br>
><br>
> Steven<br>
><br>
> On Sep 21, 2014 9:48 PM, "Kateregga Geoffrey" <<a
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> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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wrote:<br>
><br>
> During the recently concluded Mapping Day road trip
in Eastern<br>
> Uganda we met an NGO who would like to use mapping
to help solve<br>
> one of the biggest problems in their community
"Land Wrangles". What<br>
> do you think is the best way to use OSM / Mapping
to solve this problem?<br>
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 23:05:02 +0200<br>
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This would be really a great idea to think about and
actually implement.<br>
But it will still need to bring the land board on in order
to make it<br>
really practical.<br>
Already a similar solution is running. If there was a way
and am sure<br>
there is a way to integrate OSM with the maps being used by
the land board.<br>
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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:06:05 +0300<br>
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Hello,<br>
sorry not for answering earlier.<br>
We did some work in the north, as Kris mentioned. However,
we will start<br>
soon (hopefully) a new pilot project to map landownership.
Additional<br>
information will be captured to build up an info-system.<br>
<br>
BRGDS<br>
Karl<br>
GIS Centre, Makerere University, Kampala,UG<br>
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On 9/22/2014 11:52 PM, Krischan Makowka wrote:<br>
> Hello,<br>
><br>
> A colleague of mine who works at the Makerere GIS lab
did something<br>
> quite similar with "regular" GIS 2 years or so ago.<br>
><br>
> Send him a message if you want to know more: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:info@karl-tiller.de">info@karl-tiller.de</a><br>
><br>
> Personally I am doubtful if mapping will solve to
underlying resource<br>
> conflicts and different livelihood styles, but it might
be a first step.<br>
> Note though that any kind of formalization of
land-owner ship is<br>
> ultimately a advantage for farmers (usually the richer
ones) and a<br>
> disadvantage for pastoralists that depend on communal
land (especially<br>
> the poorer ones).<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> -Kris<br>
><br>
><br>
> Am 22.09.2014 um 21:09 schrieb Bukulu Steven:<br>
>> Thank you Geoffrey,<br>
>><br>
>> My opinion would be, they record coordinates of
different land portions<br>
>> especially at the corners, have the recorded at the
NGO's headquarters<br>
>> and have them verified as a legal body where the
locals can be<br>
>> comfortable to seek such information from.<br>
>><br>
>> It's what I suggest.<br>
>><br>
>> Steven<br>
>><br>
>> On Sep 21, 2014 9:48 PM, "Kateregga Geoffrey" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:kateregga1@gmail.com">kateregga1@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kateregga1@gmail.com">kateregga1@gmail.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> During the recently concluded Mapping Day road
trip in Eastern<br>
>> Uganda we met an NGO who would like to use
mapping to help solve<br>
>> one of the biggest problems in their community
"Land Wrangles". What<br>
>> do you think is the best way to use OSM /
Mapping to solve this<br>
>> problem?<br>
>><br>
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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:19:24 +0300<br>
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Hi Geoffrey,<br>
<br>
OSM can help greatly in mapping the situation as-is. Where
the roads, rocks,<br>
trees etc etc are.<br>
<br>
It can then be used to put the discussion about legal
boundaries in context of<br>
the real world. OSM, by nature of being open, is not
suitable to actually<br>
manage disputes.<br>
<br>
just my 2 cents.<br>
<br>
Rgds,<br>
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Reinier<br>
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On Sunday 21 September 2014 21:47:59 Kateregga Geoffrey
wrote:<br>
> During the recently concluded Mapping Day road trip in
Eastern Uganda we<br>
> met an NGO who would like to use mapping to help solve
one of the biggest<br>
> problems in their community "Land Wrangles". What do
you think is the best<br>
> way to use OSM / Mapping to solve this problem?<br>
<br>
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