My thoughts on this are that this is something we need to do to make OSM truly useful. Adding addresses in by hand is a bandaid fix because we don't have that data already. Unfortunately, I don't have any feedback on technical ways to do this correctly, but I wanted to express my +1 to doing this.<br><br>As far as which building on a parcel to tag, is there a way to make it the larger one? That may cover the majority of circumstances, and any further edits would be corrections for where the address actually is.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>-------- Original Message --------<br>On Jul 13, 2018, 08:29, Yury Yatsynovich < yury.yatsynovich@gmail.com> wrote:<blockquote class="protonmail_quote"><br><html><head></head><body><div dir="auto">Greetings!<div dir="auto">It was me who started the topic on importing MA addresses on the forum. Originally from Belarus, I'm currently residing in Malden, MA (so, might be considered somewhat local:)).</div><div dir="auto">I've contacted MassGIS about the possibility to import address points from their data to OSM and received their permission (as I mentioned in the thread on the forum).</div><div dir="auto">Best, Yury</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 8:01 AM <<a href="mailto:talk-us-massachusetts-request@openstreetmap.org">talk-us-massachusetts-request@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Talk-us-massachusetts mailing list submissions to<br>
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 09:54:58 -0400<br>
From: Greg Troxel <<a href="mailto:gdt@lexort.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gdt@lexort.com</a>><br>
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Can you give us a brief summary, like who is proposing this, if they are<br>
local, and if they are knoww on the list? I thought that the talk-us@<br>
email group was mandatory for US imports.<br>
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Also, massgis's licensing seems to be perhaps changing, to something<br>
ccish instead of PD, but I suspect they don't really mean to exclude OSM<br>
use. Perhaps that's changed again and I'm out of date.<br>
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 09:56:57 -0400<br>
From: Greg Troxel <<a href="mailto:gdt@lexort.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gdt@lexort.com</a>><br>
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So I see this is just someone asking, not a real proposal.<br>
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It might be just as well for someone who uses forums to point them to<br>
this list, and to caution them that imports are hard and this one is<br>
going to be particularly hard...<br>
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:03:58 -0400<br>
From: Jason Remillard <<a href="mailto:remillard.jason@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">remillard.jason@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Greg Troxel <<a href="mailto:gdt@lexort.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gdt@lexort.com</a>>, OSM Massachusetts<br>
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Hi Greg,<br>
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<a href="https://docs.digital.mass.gov/dataset/massgis-data-master-address-data-statewide-address-points-geocoding" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.digital.mass.gov/dataset/massgis-data-master-address-data-statewide-address-points-geocoding</a><br>
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It looks like MassGIS clarified the licensing situation. It is cc-by.<br>
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<a href="https://opendefinition.org/licenses/cc-by/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://opendefinition.org/licenses/cc-by/</a><br>
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OSM policy on cc-by v4 is that we should ask explicit permission to import<br>
it.<br>
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<a href="https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/</a><br>
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On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Greg Troxel <<a href="mailto:gdt@lexort.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gdt@lexort.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Can you give us a brief summary, like who is proposing this, if they are<br>
> local, and if they are knoww on the list? I thought that the talk-us@<br>
> email group was mandatory for US imports.<br>
><br>
> Also, massgis's licensing seems to be perhaps changing, to something<br>
> ccish instead of PD, but I suspect they don't really mean to exclude OSM<br>
> use. Perhaps that's changed again and I'm out of date.<br>
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:07:16 -0400<br>
From: Greg Troxel <<a href="mailto:gdt@lexort.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gdt@lexort.com</a>><br>
To: Jason Remillard <<a href="mailto:remillard.jason@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">remillard.jason@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Jason Remillard <<a href="mailto:remillard.jason@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">remillard.jason@gmail.com</a>> writes:<br>
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> <a href="https://docs.digital.mass.gov/dataset/massgis-data-master-address-data-statewide-address-points-geocoding" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.digital.mass.gov/dataset/massgis-data-master-address-data-statewide-address-points-geocoding</a><br>
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> It looks like MassGIS clarified the licensing situation. It is cc-by.<br>
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> <a href="https://opendefinition.org/licenses/cc-by/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://opendefinition.org/licenses/cc-by/</a><br>
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> OSM policy on cc-by v4 is that we should ask explicit permission to import<br>
> it.<br>
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> <a href="https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/</a><br>
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Thanks - that's great news. It used to be cc-by-sa. They don't seem<br>
to point to a version, so I guess that means the latest. Certainly<br>
asking if it's ok is easy enough, should we get to the point where we<br>
are serious.<br>
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Long-term, I would love to see us import the addresses. That's a big<br>
job, in terms of avoiding existing data and conflation to our buildings<br>
(but they've done some of that) and I may eventually have time to help.<br>
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