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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I would not be in favor of permanent
deletion. In some cases it might make sense to delete what is
there now and re-import newer/better data. But I think each would
have to be checked individually. In the situation where many
adjacent parcels all have the same tags, they should be melded
into one big area. <br>
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One of the situations previously described sounds like the typical
thing where like 60+ years ago some ambitious developers planned
to build near water, streets were laid out but then the laws
changed. A lot of times the state ignores these paper streets laid
out on the parcel map when they draw conservation borders. <br>
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I think for?? a typical water supply protection area one would draw
a simple line around the outer border, as these are usually simple
straight lines. Then make a relation with the shoreline, so you
wouldn't have to draw the shore again.<br>
With the Alan's example picture it looks more complicated. That
looks like it could be reduced to 4 separate areas though. I have
seen some people draw new borders that cross existing streets but
I don't like that.</div>
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Someone should also update the wiki to describe the current way to
update MassGIS tags. When I first started mapping I tried going by
the instructions in the wiki and ended up turning land into water.
I left a comment here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:MassGis_Layer_Openspace">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:MassGis_Layer_Openspace</a> <br>
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Someone could also create a MassGIS fixup matrix in a google doc
and leave a link in the wiki. Like a chart with towns on left
column and tasks at the top. If you want to work a town put your
name on the cell in the chart, when you're done mark it in the
chart. Of course the MassGIS wiki pages should clearly state how
to update the tags. Afaik that would be:</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">boundary=protected area</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">protect_class=12</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">There was a proposal for
protected_area=resource but I don't think it was adopted.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">We shouldn't think of these as
watersheds per se, since all land is part of a watershed. They are
conservation areas for the purpose of "water supply protection."
By definition access should no. This was tightened up after 9/11
with fears of terrorist poisoning the water, but my town just
opened a nature walk around our reservoir.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">There is a lot to think about so I
wouldn't be in a rush.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">-Wayne Emerson [OSM-Rassilon]</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/13/2019 9:23 AM, Alan & Ruth
Bragg wrote:<br>
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of all 2,740 landuse=reservoir_watershed polygons are in MA.</small></div>
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style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica
Neue",Helvetica,Arial;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap">There
is one OSM wiki for the tag but it says nothing.??</small><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q17545"
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q17545</a></div>
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distinguish and map real objects.??</font></font></div>
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current MassGIS L3 overlay in most cases.</font></div>
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face="arial, sans-serif">All this data, and much more is
available from MassGIS?? on the OLIVER site.</font><a
href="http://maps.massgis.state.ma.us/map_ol/oliver.php"
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