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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks for your interest, Nic!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The place to get data for the Forest Service is the Data Extract Tool, at
<a href="https://data.fs.usda.gov/geodata/webapps/EDW_DataExtract/">https://data.fs.usda.gov/geodata/webapps/EDW_DataExtract/</a>. The amount of data varies by Forest, but most every forest should have the information that would be useful to OSM – boundaries,
roads, trails, recreation sites, etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Some forests are combined administratively, even if they seem to be separate forests on the ground. For instance, the Croatan NF is managed as part of the National
Forests in North Carolina. So to get the Croatan’s information, you would go to the Data Extract Tool and download National Forests in North Carolina data. Some other, mostly southern, states are like this, including Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, and Florida.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Wilderness areas are congressionally-designated areas within federal lands, managed to standards that preserve their wilderness character. For all the information
you could ever want on wilderness, please visit Wilderness.net. Here’s a great page to start on:
<a href="https://www.wilderness.net/NWPS/WhatIsWilderness">https://www.wilderness.net/NWPS/WhatIsWilderness</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I hope that helps get you started! Feel free to contact me with any more questions.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">p: 423-476-9748 <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#28742E">Caring for the land and serving people<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> James McAndrew [<a href="mailto:james_mcandrew@partner.nps.gov">mailto:james_mcandrew@partner.nps.gov</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 16, 2018 10:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:dunic777@hotmail.com">dunic777@hotmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org">
talk-us@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:talk-us-nps@openstreetmap.org">talk-us-nps@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-us-nps] [EXTERNAL] North Carolina National Park<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm CCing the general talk-us on this, since National Forests are outside of the separate from the National Park Service, and there may be someone there who can provide more guidance.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In this particular case the Pocosin Wilderness Area is managed by the Forest Service (part of the US Dept of Agriculture), although "wilderness areas" can be managed by a number of groups within the federal government.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you're using data from state governments, you will need to look at the licensing restrictions, because many states do not release their data into public domain. US Federal government datasets are mandated to be in the public domain,
so there are no issues using them for OpenStreetMap.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since this National Forest and Wildlife area are not units of the National Park System, you will not find them in the
<a href="http://irma.nps.gov">irma.nps.gov</a> dataset. It looks like your best source of data for this will be the PDF that you linked: <a href="https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5403940.pdf">https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5403940.pdf</a>
-- Although it doesn't appear that the PDF is geo-enabled.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was able to find the boundary in the dataset named "Administrative Forest Boundaries": <a href="https://data.fs.usda.gov/geodata/edw/datasets.php?dsetCategory=boundaries">https://data.fs.usda.gov/geodata/edw/datasets.php?dsetCategory=boundaries</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That may be another good source.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would also suggest overlaying the boundaries and making tweaks to the existing OSM boundary instead of importing the new boundary and deleting the old. That would allow existing points in the database to maintain their history.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm hoping someone from the general talk-us group can provide more input on this. Best of luck!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 9:39 AM Nicolas Duclos <<a href="mailto:dunic777@hotmail.com">dunic777@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA">Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA">I’m new in OSM Community and after a short trip on East Coast of North Carolina, I decided to help making NC more accurate than it is right now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA">I’m currently trying to edit or remake the Croatan National Forest, but I’m not too sure how to achieve it by importing data. Currently for some reasons there
is two Croatan National Forest at the same place and the shape is not really accurate compared to other maps out there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA">Here is what I found :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="http://data.nconemap.gov/geoportal/dataexplorer/index.jsp" target="_blank"><span lang="FR-CA">http://data.nconemap.gov/geoportal/dataexplorer/index.jsp</span></a><span lang="FR-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5403940.pdf" target="_blank"><span lang="FR-CA">https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5403940.pdf</span></a><span lang="FR-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA">Not too sure about the proclamation area on the map and what’s the difference between national forest and wilderness.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA">I could also create trails and outdoor activities spot in OSM.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA">Data :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="http://data.nconemap.gov/geoportal/catalog/main/home.page" target="_blank"><span lang="FR-CA">http://data.nconemap.gov/geoportal/catalog/main/home.page</span></a><span lang="FR-CA">
(type <i>marea</i> in search box)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA">or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="https://irma.nps.gov/DataStore/Reference/Profile/2224545?lnv=True" target="_blank"><span lang="FR-CA">https://irma.nps.gov/DataStore/Reference/Profile/2224545?lnv=True</span></a><span lang="FR-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA">Not too sure which data to take or how they works.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA">Thank you very much for your help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="FR-CA">Nic from Canada </span><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😊</span><span lang="FR-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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