On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Nick Hocking <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick.hocking@gmail.com">nick.hocking@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d"><div>"Well, #2 would be nice but it would be tricky to detect a collision with an<br>existing way. Frankly, because the first TIGER import was done, the number<br>of completely new ways that would be added in a new import would be small,<br>
and the number of those ways that conflict with ways added manually by<br>editors would be even smaller. So, I think it's a small sacrifice to have to<br>remove a few duplicated roads in exchange for county-wide improved accuracy."</div>
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</div><div>Karl,</div>
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<div>I agree #2 could be tricky but I believe it is essential.</div>
<div>I don't think you can corrupt someones edits and then say to them</div>
<div>"sorry, we decided to sacrifice your hard work because we determined</div>
<div>that it was for the greater good."</div>
<div></div></blockquote><div><br>I don't see it as "corrupting". It's not mangling the mapper's work in any way. If they don't like the new overlapping road, then just delete the TIGER one.<br><br>
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<div> It hope that is not the OSM way.</div>
<div></div></blockquote><div><br>My sense is that "the OSM way" is "do it your damn self".<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Also I despute your statement of "a few" but notwithstanding that, this is</div>
<div>not a numbers game......</div>
<div></div></blockquote><div> <br>I have to admit I don't have hard numbers to back up my statement, but intuitively, how many roads would have been added in 2 years? I'm sure there are some statistics somewhere stating the number of roads in TIGER 2005 (2004?) and in TIGER 2007. That would give a magnitude to the issue.<br>
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<div>"gee officer - I only killed a few people - there are hundreds left" is not</div>
<div>going to get you very far.</div>
<div></div></blockquote><div><br>Really? You're going to compare overlapping ways with a capital crime?<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Still, I will say that if the numbers of duplicated way are so few then </div>
<div>I think that the person who creates the duplicated ways should also</div>
<div>fix them up. Then I'd have no problem with the uploads so long as rules</div>
<div>1 and 3 are also kept.</div>
<div></div></blockquote><div><br>That goes back to *detecting* the overlapping ways. Can be done by JOSM's validator, so maybe there's hope.<br><br>Maybe it could be done like Dave handled the last import--if anyone is concerned about conflicts, they can handle their county themselves. <br>
<br>Karl<br></div></div><br>