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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Treating this as a new import, I have a few questions<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is there a page on the wiki with the information called for in </span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Document_your_import_on_the_wiki">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Document_your_import_on_the_wiki</a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>? There is the Kern County page, but that is a page for the county, not a page for an import.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What software do you plan to use to convert shapefiles to OSM?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Can you post an example of the data in .osm format, that way we can see how the data tagging as well as the accuracy is.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The metadata for the Bakersfield source contains the following clause<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You agree not to provide a copy or partial copy of any data<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>to any other party, including consultants under<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>contract with you, without disclosing that the copy or partial<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>copy was obtained from The City of Bakersfield and<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>without attaching a duplicate of these Terms and Conditions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I know that you had informally obtained different permissions for some data but that it wasn’t particularly well documented. Could you obtain clearer permission, including for the data previously imported.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nmixter@gmail.com [mailto:nmixter@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nathan Mixter<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 20, 2012 7:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> Paul Norman; imports<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Talk-us] Kern County progress<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Yes, I guess it would be considered as a new import since it includes new data not originally included from the city. But it is a selective import since not all the data is new. I plan to do it in several small uploads so I can verify the accuracy.<o:p></o:p></p><p>On Aug 20, 2012 6:36 PM, "Paul Norman" <<a href="mailto:penorman@mac.com">penorman@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> It’s good to see some progress made on cleaning these up.<br>><br>> <br>><br>> Just be clear, are you proposing a new import at this time?<br>><br>> <br>><br>> From: Nathan Mixter [mailto:<a href="mailto:srmixter@hotmail.com">srmixter@hotmail.com</a>] <br>> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 2:45 PM<br>> To: talk-us; imports<br>> Subject: [Talk-us] Kern County progress<br>><br>> <br>><br>> I have begun cleaning up the area around Kern County, California. It is starting to not only look better but be less cluttered.<br>> I originally imported landuse data from both Kern County and the City of Bakersfield. Some areas from these two agencies overlapped around Bakersfield, and I have been going through and trying to remove these. The city data were quite good and included landuse areas, buildings, parks and even individual trees within the city. The county data tended to be generic in several places. It also was slightly misaligned in spots particularly in the rural areas, possibly due to the projection it was created with by the county.<br>> I have been going through and systematically deleting the redundant areas and breaking down the over used landuse=farm and landuse=residential tags into more specific areas. And in the process, I have been covering some of the ugly white space that has remained empty.<br>> A lot of the areas are now natural=heath. There is not really any good way to differentiate between meadow and heath areas. Still seems like they can be used interchangeably sometimes. I've been trying to use meadow for an area that can be used for grazing. I just started using the heath tag for open areas generally on areas east of Highway 5. It's not a perfect option but at least it kind of matches the work others have done around Las Vegas and in the desert.<br>> I've been trying to integrate the existing Kern County data with the FMMP farm data, which I have imported for other counties around the state as well. <br>><br>> As part of the cleanup, I am adding some new buildings in Bakersfield from city data. I am only adding new building that have been added since the original import and verifying that they don't exist to avoid dups. Probably less than 1,000 total new buildings. Originally, I included bak:fac_type1, bak:fac_type2 and bak:fac_type3 tags on some buildings to correspond to tags in the data. These are not needed and can be removed en mass by a script in the future. I am leaving those tags out and incorporating them into the building= tag (ie building=residential, building=commercial) for new buildings.<br>> I also created a long overdue Kern County page on the wiki to keep track of the changes (<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kern_County,_California">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kern_County,_California</a>).<br>><br>><br>> Thanks to everyone who has contacted me to help out with the cleanup and offered advise. If anyone is interested in helping or has any suggestions, feel free to jump in or let me know.<br>> Nathan,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>