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Hello all,<br><br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>I don't
know a lot about this, but apparently there is a current effort in the
U.S. to improve the addressing in rural areas so emergency responders can
locate addresses more easily. It might be advantageous to look at their
addressing scheme to see if there is something we can use. It also could
be advantageous to be congruent with that scheme, if it works for
us.<br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>Also, this
effort could be a source of address data in the future.<br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>Does
anyone have more detail?<br><br>
Charlotte<br><br>
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:19:41 -0500<br>
From: Richard Welty <rwelty@averillpark.net><br>
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Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Feature proposal: proposed expanded address
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ok, thanks, carl. this helps. i'm working on an emergency services
related project<br>
right now and it's helpful to learn about these things.<br><br>
the next question is this. supposing we implement Steven's proposal, how
does<br>
this help in emergency services mapping projects, that is, what does this
breakout<br>
facilitate for us?<br><br>
richard<br><br>
On 11/20/12 10:05 PM, Carl Anderson wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">All,<br><br>
This proposal is a good thing, provided that it does not deprecate
current<br>
tagging uses.<br><br>
>From my experiences in emergency services (911), emergency management
(FEMA<br>
and State/County EMA), and location finding I find that it is often
very<br>
important to know what the colloquial core phrase of an address
is.<br><br>
A "Colloquial core phrase" is something we all use
everyday. We shorten<br>
names down to a useful, but still meaningful, core.<br>
If I were to say that I was at 14th and K, many of my DC friends would
know<br>
that I was at the intersection of 14 St NW and K St NW.<br>
My friends who are not familiar with DC could guess the location given
a<br>
bit of prompting.<br><br>
In easy cases it is easy to determine the "colloquial core
phrase" of an<br>
address.<br>
Sometimes however, it is not easy to guess the correct local use for
a<br>
street name or address.<br><br>
For instance my friends in Alpharetta, GA all know that North Point
Mall<br>
Blvd is not the North version of Point Mall Blvd, but instead is the
Blvd<br>
at North Point Mall. My friends farther away from Alpharetta, GA
probably<br>
don't know this.<br><br>
Additionally, many times I have seen St. Lo Dr. mangled by well
intentioned<br>
people into Street Lo Drive or once and a while into Street Lo
Doctor. Of<br>
course Saint-Lô is is a well known place in France with a name derived
from<br>
Saint Laud.<br>
Consider how often people mangle the intersection roads
"Boulevard" and<br>
"Boulevard Drive" in Atlanta, GA. It is about even how
well intentioned<br>
people convert both names into one of the two valid choices.<br><br>
Steven's proposal creates a mechanism for local knowledge and local<br>
colloquial use to be added into OSM. In turn this data, when
present, will<br>
allow people who interact with the public to better understand the
intent<br>
of the public in a more precise fashion.<br><br>
The parsing steps move the bits that are not part of the core into
well<br>
known tags that can be unambiguously dealt with.<br>
The unambiguous aspect is equally important as abbreviation usage is
often<br>
lossy. For instance some US jurisdictions use BL as an abbreviation
for<br>
Boulevard and others use BL for Bluff. (In the emergency services
world<br>
hilarity does not ensue). If OSM had such names as "Braided
Blanket Bluff"<br>
in the proposed tagging scheme<br><br>
<br>
If we were to use the proposal as additional tags to the current
existing<br>
tags people could add to OSM data to the limit of their local knowledge
and<br>
when they knew the common local usage could, correctly, completely
and<br>
unambiguously fill out the parsed tags that Steven has proposed.<br><br>
C.<br><br>
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