Brian,<div><br></div><div>That's probably true. There is no reference to Sanborn in the metadata, but there is an attribute "<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:monospace;font-size:13px">PARCEL_SOURCE</span>" which seems to be set to Sanborn in most cases.</div>
<div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Jim</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Brian May <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmay@mapwise.com" target="_blank">bmay@mapwise.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>If Sanborn was just a contractor hired
by the govmt agency to help with digitizing, data conversion, etc.
there should be no copyright issues with them. I didn't see a
reference to Sanborn in the parcel metadata.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Brian</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 11/29/2012 2:36 PM, Jim McAndrew wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">The city/county of Denver, CO does have a parcels
database (in a bunch of formats)
<div>(<a href="http://data.denvergov.org/dataset/city-and-county-of-denver-parcels" target="_blank">http://data.denvergov.org/dataset/city-and-county-of-denver-parcels</a>)</div>
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<div>But it is licensed under a CC BY 3.0 License</div>
<div>(<a href="http://data.denvergov.org/dataset/city-and-county-of-denver-parcels" target="_blank">http://data.denvergov.org/dataset/city-and-county-of-denver-parcels</a>)</div>
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<div>Is this something that should even be added to the
spreadsheet? It looks like all their data is from Sanborn, so
the older data should be out of copyright by now, if it can be
found elsewhere.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:04 PM,
Steven Johnson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sejohnson8@gmail.com" target="_blank">sejohnson8@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">That was
exactly my reaction as well. My understanding is that these
data are essentially in the public domain. I'll note it in
the spreadsheet.
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PM, Brian May <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmay@mapwise.com" target="_blank">bmay@mapwise.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>On 11/29/2012 1:11 PM, Richard Welty wrote:<br>
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On 11/29/12 1:03 PM, Steven Johnson wrote:<br>
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The<br>
data are copyrighted and Arlington County owns
all rights to the data and<br>
allows use "...as an acknowledged source to
produce maps or analysis but<br>
you may not redistribute, resell, or copy the
data (except for back-up<br>
purposes)."<br>
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the redistribute clause is a real problem, as we
don't attempt to control<br>
people taking copies of OSM as long as they
honor the ODbL. i'd say this<br>
license is ODbL incompatible (not a lawyer,
though.)<br>
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richard<br>
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Local governments may claim copyright, but whether
they can legally is another matter. A very quick
review of Virginia state law appears to show they
have liberal open records laws.<br>
<a href="http://www.opengovva.org/virginias-foia-the-law" target="_blank">http://www.opengovva.org/virginias-foia-the-law</a><br>
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We should probably track these public records
problems, e.g. counties and cities that claim
copyright, etc but the state law says otherwise.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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Brian</font></span>
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