<div dir="ltr"><div>Yes, I am going to be working on this. <br>We can remove the US and KS easily. <br>Not all is perfect, Some of the nodes dont have a house number. <br><br></div><div>That farm node you mentioned is an empty farmyard. <a href="http://www.snco.us/Ap/R_prop/Listing.asp?PRCL_ID=0282701001001010">http://www.snco.us/Ap/R_prop/Listing.asp?PRCL_ID=0282701001001010</a> It does not have a house number, but it does exist as a property. I will be either removing them or removing the building nodes. What do you think?<br>
</div><div><br></div>Now Flu Con Inc is listed at that address. I added it for now, will be checking it on monday by calling them. <br><p>This data does need fixing up, it is not perfect, but I am working on it. <br></p>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Toby Murray <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:toby.murray@gmail.com" target="_blank">toby.murray@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Just saw some of this going in and decided to take a look.<br>
Specifically this node:<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2078174875" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2078174875</a><br>
<br>
- I think there is pretty good consensus that we don't need addr:state<br>
and addr:country tags<br>
- The addr:street tag has odd capitalization<br>
- The building=* tag typically doesn't belong on nodes<br>
- It has both building and landuse tags. Seems odd.<br>
- There doesn't appear to be a building there on Bing. Is it new?<br>
- Not sure about all the lbcs: tags. Sometimes it is useful to pull in<br>
external information but it is also clutter in OSM<br>
- The tags are all identical to this node that is 60 meters north:<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2078081231" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2078081231</a><br>
<br>
Seems like this could use some more fixing up before it hits the OSM database.<br>
<br>
Toby<br>
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Mike Dupont<br>
<div><div class="h5"><<a href="mailto:jamesmikedupont@googlemail.com">jamesmikedupont@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I have added the info to the wiki<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kansas/Shawnee_County/Import" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kansas/Shawnee_County/Import</a><br>
><br>
> also the scripts are updated. I am been manually replacing the plot info<br>
> with just the building, so the only info being imported are the house<br>
> numbers and zip codes and the lbcs tags. Also for the new script, I create a<br>
> single point with the average location of the points making up the plot and<br>
> then manually place that on top of the major building manually. this checks<br>
> the data and also basically removes all data being copied, everything is<br>
> only just the basic facts.<br>
><br>
> mike<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Mike Dupont<br>
> <<a href="mailto:jamesmikedupont@googlemail.com">jamesmikedupont@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:09 AM, Martin Koppenhöfer<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Am 15/dic/2012 um 22:39 schrieb Mike Dupont<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:jamesmikedupont@googlemail.com">jamesmikedupont@googlemail.com</a>>:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> 3. What tagging are you proposing?<br>
>>><br>
>>> addr:* and landuse<br>
>>> the only additional tag are the four detailed landuse tags<br>
>>> eg<br>
>>> lbcs:activity:code {1100=1}<br>
>>> lbcs:activity:name {Household activities=1}<br>
>>> lbcs:function:code {1170=1}<br>
>>> lbcs:function:name {Garden apartment complex (1=1}<br>
>>><br>
>>> These codes are details on how the lot is zoned. otherwise I am using<br>
>>> this information for fixing the street names and zip codes.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Are the landuses you plan to tag actual landuses or permitted/planned<br>
>>> landuses?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> These are actual landuses, the ones that describe the business.<br>
>> when you register a business here in kansas, you have to provide this<br>
>> information.<br>
>> <a href="https://www.kansas.gov/bess/flow/main?execution=e1s1" target="_blank">https://www.kansas.gov/bess/flow/main?execution=e1s1</a><br>
>><br>
>> I will also be looking into how that data can be extracted and compared<br>
>> some day. This is more than zoning infomation.<br>
>> If you look at this for example :<br>
>> <a href="http://www.snco.us/Ap/C_prop/Listing.asp?PRCL_ID=0973604030001000" target="_blank">http://www.snco.us/Ap/C_prop/Listing.asp?PRCL_ID=0973604030001000</a><br>
>><br>
>> "2151-Grocery store / supermarket"<br>
>> "2110-Goods-oriented shopping"<br>
>> that is very accurate and could be used for direct tag information.<br>
>><br>
>> there is a building layer on the snco gis site, but I have not figured out<br>
>> how to extract it, it seems to be hidden. So I am tracing them from bing.<br>
>> <a href="http://gis.snco.us/ArcGIS/rest/services/Basemap_102100/MapServer/7" target="_blank">http://gis.snco.us/ArcGIS/rest/services/Basemap_102100/MapServer/7</a><br>
>> <a href="http://gis.snco.us/ArcGIS/rest/services/Basemap_102100/MapServer/8" target="_blank">http://gis.snco.us/ArcGIS/rest/services/Basemap_102100/MapServer/8</a><br>
>><br>
>>>> 4. The last few times someone has proposed importing property lot<br>
>>>> data the consensus has been that that type of data shouldn’t be imported<br>
>>>> into OSM. Why is this different?<br>
>>><br>
>>> I am importing the plots for zipcode, house number and address data. It<br>
>>> is being used to tag the buildings, it can be deleted when it has been<br>
>>> totally processed.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> IMHO addresses belong (often) to plots, so in these cases there is no<br>
>>> point in transferring the address information to a building. Don't remember<br>
>>> consensus to not import property limits. I do remember though that there<br>
>>> were concerns about the sheer amount of data increase if we imported this<br>
>>> for the whole world.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers,<br>
>>> Martin<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Well these are plots/property limits. And I dont want to import them for<br>
>> the whole world, just the streets that I am tracing buildings from so that<br>
>> I can quickly find locations. Also did you notice that<br>
>> <a href="http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/" target="_blank">http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/</a> can now find house numbers accurately<br>
>> for these streets I imported :<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search.php?q=2033+Southwest+Wanamaker+Rd%2C+Topeka%2C+Kansas&viewbox=-217.97%2C80.28%2C217.97%2C-70.31" target="_blank">http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search.php?q=2033+Southwest+Wanamaker+Rd%2C+Topeka%2C+Kansas&viewbox=-217.97%2C80.28%2C217.97%2C-70.31</a><br>
>><br>
>> Until the houses are traced and the data transfered like i did here :<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/196582551" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/196582551</a> I removed the plot and<br>
>> the lbcs data and left only the house itself.<br>
>> I forgot the landuse=residential.<br>
>><br>
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