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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'>Paul, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'>You explicitly said that putting 50 mile wide corridors on OSM “</span>would be an important advocacy tool.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'>That does not sound at all like “mapping reality.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'>I spend hundreds of hours a year on the phone, corresponding, and attending meetings to make the USBR a reality. I’ve personally been involved in getting over 2,000 miles of USBRs approved. Don’t give me stuff about being obtuse and saying the USBRS is a pipe dream. Personal insults are not the path forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'>Kerry Irons<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Paul Johnson [mailto:baloo@ursamundi.org] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 08, 2013 11:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> OpenStreetMap talk-us list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM, KerryIrons <<a href="mailto:irons54vortex@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">irons54vortex@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So Paul, what you really want is advocacy mapping. Not mapping reality but mapping what you want to have. It comes as a great surprise to me that this is what OSM is all about. Do you think this is the consensus of the OSM community? I thought OSM’s goal was to “accurately describe the world” but you are saying it is also advocacy.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>No, that's not what I'm advocating, and honestly, the way you're approaching this now, I really have to be wondering if you're being deliberately obtuse. Because if that's actually where you're coming from, you're essentially saying that the USBR system is a pipe dream. I'm not ready to buy that argument because the premise is fundamentally flawed on a level amounting to argumentum ad absurdum.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>