<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I'm interested in this, I recently posted a question on how to map subdivisions, I'm using landuse=residential,name=Name of Subdivision to map mine.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I think it's important that for US purposes, we can distinguish between HOA managed subdivisions, which are defined as a legal entity, and all other types of indicators (hamlet, neighborhood
etc). My city, (Centennial, Colorado) which is quite new, has no areas that are 'neighbourhoods', all residential areas are either subdivisions or are are defined as just a city address (for those that have no HOA. There is no naming 'creep' as someone raised in this thread. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Mark</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Martijn van Exel <m@rtijn.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Russell Deffner <Russell@russelldeffnerconsulting.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> OSM US Talk <talk-us@openstreetmap.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:56 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv8120092475"><div dir="ltr">Russ -- Yes, MR2 will have the ability to work on a specific location (likely to be specified as a point +
radius, or bbox).<div style="">What do you mean by correlating place values, correlating with what?</div>
<div style="">Rural areas are not as important for neighborhood coverage I would say.</div></div><div class="yiv8120092475gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="yiv8120092475gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Russell Deffner <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Russell@russelldeffnerconsulting.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:Russell@russelldeffnerconsulting.com">Russell@russelldeffnerconsulting.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div class="yiv8120092475MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">I think this is a good idea but have some suggested considerations.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv8120092475MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">If I remember correctly, MapRoulette 2 has the ability to localize the challenge, correct? If/when is that available I think that would be a great challenge,
just a simple “verify this is the proper neighborhood name and appropriate value”. However, I have not seen a real good reference for correlating the place values in the US (although I haven’t looked); does someone know of one? or maybe a good first step
is to try and create one. Also I don’t think this will get us anywhere near complete as we get into rural areas we don’t know and that don’t have local mappers (and those using MR), so we may need to further do some sort of ‘challenge’ (that may not work
with MR) to ‘import’/cross-reference another data set.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv8120092475MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">=Russ<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv8120092475MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">russdeffner on OSM<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv8120092475MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Martijn van Exel [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:m@rtijn.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:m@rtijn.org">m@rtijn.org</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 11, 2013 12:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSM US Talk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow<u></u><u></u></span></div><div><div class="yiv8120092475h5">
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<div class="yiv8120092475MsoNormal">Hiya,<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="yiv8120092475MsoNormal">OSM has pretty poor neighborhood coverage in the US. We have around 1100 place=neighbo[u]rhood. Geonames has ten times that at 11,000 (feature class P.PPLX - not sure if all of those are neighborhoods) and Zillow has 7,000. Both these data
sets are provided under (different) CC licenses. Could we use either Geonames or Zillow to drive improvement to neighborhood name coverage in OSM? I am not proposing an import, but a local MapRoulette challenge might work where people with local knowledge
accept / reject proposed neighborhood points, or something along those lines.<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="yiv8120092475MsoNormal">Martijn<u></u><u></u></div>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Martijn van Exel<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://oegeo.wordpress.com/">http://oegeo.wordpress.com/</a><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://openstreetmap.us/">http://openstreetmap.us/</a>
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