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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I mean deciding what place value to use, i.e. is this a hamlet, neighborhood, etc. So I guess more of a guideline for tagging places in the US is what I’d
like to have for a MR challenge. As far as rural, in my rural CO area very few of what I’d call ‘neighborhoods’ exist in OSM; I’ve added the ones I know right around me and that was about 1/2 dozen. I would guess that these could make up for a relatively
significant number across the entire US.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> mvexel@gmail.com [mailto:mvexel@gmail.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Martijn van Exel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Russell Deffner<br>
<b>Cc:</b> OSM US Talk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Russ -- Yes, MR2 will have the ability to work on a specific location (likely to be specified as a point + radius, or bbox).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What do you mean by correlating place values, correlating with what?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rural areas are not as important for neighborhood coverage I would say.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Russell Deffner <<a href="mailto:Russell@russelldeffnerconsulting.com" target="_blank">Russell@russelldeffnerconsulting.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think this is a good idea but have some suggested considerations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If I remember correctly, MapRoulette 2 has the ability to localize the challenge, correct? If/when
is that available I think that would be a great challenge, just a simple “verify this is the proper neighborhood name and appropriate value”. However, I have not seen a real good reference for correlating the place values in the US (although I haven’t looked);
does someone know of one? or maybe a good first step is to try and create one. Also I don’t think this will get us anywhere near complete as we get into rural areas we don’t know and that don’t have local mappers (and those using MR), so we may need to further
do some sort of ‘challenge’ (that may not work with MR) to ‘import’/cross-reference another data set.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=Russ</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">russdeffner on OSM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Martijn van Exel [mailto:<a href="mailto:m@rtijn.org" target="_blank">m@rtijn.org</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 11, 2013 12:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSM US Talk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hiya,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">OSM has pretty poor neighborhood coverage in the US. We have around 1100 place=neighbo[u]rhood. Geonames has ten times that at 11,000 (feature class P.PPLX - not sure if all of
those are neighborhoods) and Zillow has 7,000. Both these data sets are provided under (different) CC licenses. Could we use either Geonames or Zillow to drive improvement to neighborhood name coverage in OSM? I am not proposing an import, but a local MapRoulette
challenge might work where people with local knowledge accept / reject proposed neighborhood points, or something along those lines.<o:p></o:p></p>
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