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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I think the easiest solution is:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal">tourism = camp_site</p><p class="MsoNormal">caravan=yes or no</p><p class="MsoNormal">
</p><p class="MsoNormal">At this time, it is not feasible to tag each spot, although that is on the “bucket list”. <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Alex Rollin [mailto:<a href="mailto:alex.rollin@gmail.com">alex.rollin@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tod Fitch<br><b>Cc:</b> Thomas Colson; <a href="mailto:talk-us-nps@openstreetmap.org">talk-us-nps@openstreetmap.org</a>; OSM US Talk<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-us] Best way to tag a campground/site?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site#Tagging_of_individual_pitches">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site#Tagging_of_individual_pitches</a></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">+1</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">This seems to allow the tagging of each individual spot. Wonderful. Should allow communication of this information to potential campers. Very nice, go OSM!</p>
</div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">--<br>Alex</p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Tod Fitch <<a href="mailto:tod@fitchdesign.com" target="_blank">tod@fitchdesign.com</a>> wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Based on my reading of the OSM wiki pages for tourism=camp_site and tourism=caravan_site, I think the typical USFS and US NPS campgrounds should be tagged tourism=camp_site.<br><br>On the camp_site page we have " A campsite or campground is an area, usually divided into a number of pitches, where people can camp overnight using tents or camper vans or caravans." and later under links "tourism=caravan_site for caravan dedicated spaces". Implying that caravan_site is particularly tailored to RVs, more than just a camp_site.<br>
<br>And on the caravan_site description, the introductory paragraph includes things like power, water supply, waste hookups, etc. which I don't believe are very common, at least in the western US, for USFS or NPS campgrounds.<br>
<br>If you are getting into details, like group camp sites versus non-group sites and the amenities available at each, then you might look at <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site#Tagging_of_individual_pitches" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site#Tagging_of_individual_pitches</a><br>
<br>Slightly extended from that but using the same basic schema it could include equestrian based amenities.<br><br>-Tod</p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br>On Sep 22, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Thomas Colson wrote:<br><br>
> It has been brought to my attention that our method of tagging campgrounds runs afoul of OSM best practices:<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17949565" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17949565</a><br>
><br>> Which begs the question: what is the best way to tag a campground that serves multiple groups?<br>><br>> Most NPS Front Country campgrounds, and Forest Service as well, provide for “car-camping” as well as RV Sites. Some also include group sites (10 or more people not in an RV).<br>
><br>> We have been tagging them as such:<br>><br>> tourism = camp_site;caravan_site<br>><br>> Options include<br>><br>> tourism = camp_site<br>> comments = also_caravan_site<br>><br>> but this will result in a very vocal and vigorous response from the RV crowd as to why we’re not using:<br>
><br>> tourism = caravan_site<br>> comments = also_camp_site<br>><br>> Another option is to use two nodes, very near each other, one for each camping “activity”. Most campgrounds are divided into tent sites and RV sites, but in MHO this is not the best way to tag these….?<br>
><br>> If the intended end result is for consumers of OSM data to be able to “locate” a campground that best serves their needs (I’m sleeping in the backseat of my car or a RV or in a horse trailer), what is the best scenario here, when applied to 350+ NPS parks (We want a consistent tagging)?<br>
><br>> Just to complicate this, some Front Country campgrounds can also accommodate horses, as well.<br>><br>> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semicolon#When_NOT_to_use_a_semi-colon_value_separator" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semicolon#When_NOT_to_use_a_semi-colon_value_separator</a> suggest that most consumers of OSM data can’t parse the semi-colon, which I have a hard time believing: any decent renderer using OSM data can use “like” statements.<br>
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