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    Thanks Volker. It's interesting that there is at least one source
    that suggests the existence of that school at some point in time, at
    least.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/01/14 13:39, Volker Schmidt
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            <div>According to the USGS Scanned Topographic Maps Layer
              (in JOSM) there was a "Sur School (abandoned)" exactly on
              the other side of the road from where the actual node is
              in OSM (I suppose where the stand of trees is on the areal
              photograph). I mapped in that area in 2011 and was also
              looking for it, but did not find anything on the ground,
              but I did not look on the other side of the road (I did
              not use the scanned maps layer at the time).<br>
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            I suggest you move the node across the street, add a source
            "USGS Sacnned Topographic Maps" and mark it as abandoned.
            There is certainly no building there any more.<br>
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                           1. Help with non-existent school in Big Sur,
                        CA area<br>
                              (Sebastian Arcus)<br>
                           2. Re: Help with non-existent school in Big
                        Sur, CA area<br>
                              (Richard Welty)<br>
                           3. Mappy New Year (Richard Weait)<br>
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                        Message: 1<br>
                        Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 20:21:43 +0000<br>
                        From: Sebastian Arcus <<a
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                        Subject: [Talk-us] Help with non-existent school
                        in Big Sur, CA area<br>
                        Message-ID: <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        I'm doing a bit of mapping south of Monterey
                        based on some notes I've<br>
                        taken two months ago, and I've stumbled over
                        this school on the map:<br>
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                        A search on the Internet doesn't reveal anything
                        called "Sur School". A<br>
                        search for schools in the area reveals some
                        schools further south - but<br>
                        nothing close to where this school is on the map
                        and nothing similar<br>
                        sounding. Also, looking at the satellite
                        imagery, there is nothing close<br>
                        to this point on the map that looks like either
                        a building or some<br>
                        remnants of one. There are the disused "Point
                        Sur Naval Facility"<br>
                        buildings on the other side of the road, but we
                        know what those are and<br>
                        they are not a school.<br>
                        <br>
                        I think the best thing to do is to delete this
                        object. However, could<br>
                        someone who either lives in the area or has
                        local knowledge confirm that<br>
                        this school really doesn't exist. All the
                        evidence so far points to it<br>
                        being the case, but it would be nice if we could
                        have "on the ground"<br>
                        confirmation before I delete it.<br>
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                        Thanks<br>
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                        Message: 2<br>
                        Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:04:49 -0500<br>
                        From: Richard Welty <<a
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                        Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Help with non-existent
                        school in Big Sur, CA<br>
                                area<br>
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                        On 1/5/14 3:21 PM, Sebastian Arcus wrote:<br>
                        > I'm doing a bit of mapping south of
                        Monterey based on some notes I've<br>
                        > taken two months ago, and I've stumbled
                        over this school on the map:<br>
                        ><br>
                        > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/36.31044/-121.88636"
                          target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/36.31044/-121.88636</a><br>
                        ><br>
                        > A search on the Internet doesn't reveal
                        anything called "Sur School".<br>
                        > A search for schools in the area reveals
                        some schools further south -<br>
                        > but nothing close to where this school is
                        on the map and nothing<br>
                        > similar sounding. Also, looking at the
                        satellite imagery, there is<br>
                        > nothing close to this point on the map that
                        looks like either a<br>
                        > building or some remnants of one. There are
                        the disused "Point Sur<br>
                        > Naval Facility" buildings on the other side
                        of the road, but we know<br>
                        > what those are and they are not a school.<br>
                        ><br>
                        > I think the best thing to do is to delete
                        this object. However, could<br>
                        > someone who either lives in the area or has
                        local knowledge confirm<br>
                        > that this school really doesn't exist. All
                        the evidence so far points<br>
                        > to it being the case, but it would be nice
                        if we could have "on the<br>
                        > ground" confirmation before I delete it.<br>
                        that's from the GNIS import. there is some good
                        data in the GNIS import,<br>
                        but there is some bad data and some out of date
                        data as well. the<br>
                        wrong/out of date stuff is frequently schools,
                        churches, etc. best if<br>
                        you can persuade a local to check it out, but
                        the odds are that it<br>
                        should be 1) deleted or 2) arked historic<br>
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                        richard<br>
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                        Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 20:08:31 -0500<br>
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                        Hi All,<br>
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                        I hope that you are off to a great start on your
                        mapping activities for 2014.<br>
                        <br>
                        OpenStreetMap is certainly off to a great start.
                         User emacsen wrote a<br>
                        compelling article today that drove a
                        significant number of new<br>
                        mappers to OpenStreetMap.  That's some great
                        advocacy, right there.<br>
                        The article is really aimed at folks who are not
                        yet mappers, so not<br>
                        really the same audience of these lists, as
                        we're already mappers.<br>
                        but you might enjoy the article anyway.  Have a
                        look.<br>
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href="http://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2014/01/04/why-the-world-needs-openstreetmap/"
                          target="_blank">http://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2014/01/04/why-the-world-needs-openstreetmap/</a><br>
                        <br>
                        In 2014 we will see the 10 anniversary /
                        birthday of OpenStreetMap.<br>
                        What are you going to do to celebrate?  We (the
                        local mappers in<br>
                        Toronto) will host another OpenStreetMap
                        Mapiversary party, details to<br>
                        be determined, how about your local group?<br>
                        <br>
                        On that subject, is this the year that you'll
                        start a local mapping<br>
                        group in your town?<br>
                        <br>
                        I've never understood why it is that the German
                        community has groups<br>
                        of mappers that meet each month, in just about
                        every city, town and<br>
                        village of size, while in North America those
                        groups are very rare.<br>
                        It could be that the difference is you.  You can
                        start a successful,<br>
                        self-sustaining local group that meets each
                        month to discuss<br>
                        OpenStreetMap.  So you should do that.  It's
                        great fun.<br>
                        <br>
                        Part of our fun in Toronto in 2013 included, the
                        9th birthday party,<br>
                        including a map cake.  Twelve regularly
                        scheduled Mappy Hour events,<br>
                        two formal presentation events, three special
                        guest events to<br>
                        celebrate august mappers visiting from other
                        places.  (and a little<br>
                        bit of a flood, but we soldiered on anyway.)<br>
                        <br>
                        What about this thread?  Tell me, what your
                        plans are for 2014?<br>
                        <br>
                        and have a Mappy New Year,<br>
                        <br>
                        Richard<br>
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