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Thanks Volker. It's interesting that there is at least one source
that suggests the existence of that school at some point in time, at
least.<br>
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<div>According to the USGS Scanned Topographic Maps Layer
(in JOSM) there was a "Sur School (abandoned)" exactly on
the other side of the road from where the actual node is
in OSM (I suppose where the stand of trees is on the areal
photograph). I mapped in that area in 2011 and was also
looking for it, but did not find anything on the ground,
but I did not look on the other side of the road (I did
not use the scanned maps layer at the time).<br>
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I suggest you move the node across the street, add a source
"USGS Sacnned Topographic Maps" and mark it as abandoned.
There is certainly no building there any more.<br>
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1. Help with non-existent school in Big Sur,
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3. Mappy New Year (Richard Weait)<br>
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Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 20:21:43 +0000<br>
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I'm doing a bit of mapping south of Monterey
based on some notes I've<br>
taken two months ago, and I've stumbled over
this school on the map:<br>
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A search on the Internet doesn't reveal anything
called "Sur School". A<br>
search for schools in the area reveals some
schools further south - but<br>
nothing close to where this school is on the map
and nothing similar<br>
sounding. Also, looking at the satellite
imagery, there is nothing close<br>
to this point on the map that looks like either
a building or some<br>
remnants of one. There are the disused "Point
Sur Naval Facility"<br>
buildings on the other side of the road, but we
know what those are and<br>
they are not a school.<br>
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I think the best thing to do is to delete this
object. However, could<br>
someone who either lives in the area or has
local knowledge confirm that<br>
this school really doesn't exist. All the
evidence so far points to it<br>
being the case, but it would be nice if we could
have "on the ground"<br>
confirmation before I delete it.<br>
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Thanks<br>
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Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:04:49 -0500<br>
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On 1/5/14 3:21 PM, Sebastian Arcus wrote:<br>
> I'm doing a bit of mapping south of
Monterey based on some notes I've<br>
> taken two months ago, and I've stumbled
over this school on the map:<br>
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> A search on the Internet doesn't reveal
anything called "Sur School".<br>
> A search for schools in the area reveals
some schools further south -<br>
> but nothing close to where this school is
on the map and nothing<br>
> similar sounding. Also, looking at the
satellite imagery, there is<br>
> nothing close to this point on the map that
looks like either a<br>
> building or some remnants of one. There are
the disused "Point Sur<br>
> Naval Facility" buildings on the other side
of the road, but we know<br>
> what those are and they are not a school.<br>
><br>
> I think the best thing to do is to delete
this object. However, could<br>
> someone who either lives in the area or has
local knowledge confirm<br>
> that this school really doesn't exist. All
the evidence so far points<br>
> to it being the case, but it would be nice
if we could have "on the<br>
> ground" confirmation before I delete it.<br>
that's from the GNIS import. there is some good
data in the GNIS import,<br>
but there is some bad data and some out of date
data as well. the<br>
wrong/out of date stuff is frequently schools,
churches, etc. best if<br>
you can persuade a local to check it out, but
the odds are that it<br>
should be 1) deleted or 2) arked historic<br>
<br>
richard<br>
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Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 20:08:31 -0500<br>
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Hi All,<br>
<br>
I hope that you are off to a great start on your
mapping activities for 2014.<br>
<br>
OpenStreetMap is certainly off to a great start.
User emacsen wrote a<br>
compelling article today that drove a
significant number of new<br>
mappers to OpenStreetMap. That's some great
advocacy, right there.<br>
The article is really aimed at folks who are not
yet mappers, so not<br>
really the same audience of these lists, as
we're already mappers.<br>
but you might enjoy the article anyway. Have a
look.<br>
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In 2014 we will see the 10 anniversary /
birthday of OpenStreetMap.<br>
What are you going to do to celebrate? We (the
local mappers in<br>
Toronto) will host another OpenStreetMap
Mapiversary party, details to<br>
be determined, how about your local group?<br>
<br>
On that subject, is this the year that you'll
start a local mapping<br>
group in your town?<br>
<br>
I've never understood why it is that the German
community has groups<br>
of mappers that meet each month, in just about
every city, town and<br>
village of size, while in North America those
groups are very rare.<br>
It could be that the difference is you. You can
start a successful,<br>
self-sustaining local group that meets each
month to discuss<br>
OpenStreetMap. So you should do that. It's
great fun.<br>
<br>
Part of our fun in Toronto in 2013 included, the
9th birthday party,<br>
including a map cake. Twelve regularly
scheduled Mappy Hour events,<br>
two formal presentation events, three special
guest events to<br>
celebrate august mappers visiting from other
places. (and a little<br>
bit of a flood, but we soldiered on anyway.)<br>
<br>
What about this thread? Tell me, what your
plans are for 2014?<br>
<br>
and have a Mappy New Year,<br>
<br>
Richard<br>
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