<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Hi Rob</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Let's talk. Lots of cool opportunities. I put the data from past years data up, years ago. I'd like to get those years, and other years, available on an archive tile server - mini site ... perhaps OpenHistoricalMap if we can get that running again ... or just on it's own set of static tiles, generated through TileMill or
such. There's also loads of aerial imagery to host together as well.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">The data for each year is relevant beyond the one+ week the festival is open. All the planning, build up of the city, take down of the city, and looking back ... well I think we can properly get it going on a yearly refresh schedule, maybe in line with opening of ticket sales in January or announcement of the street names.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue',
Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Getting the data is the complicated part. There's release of the details of the city layout and core services, the fence are released sometime in May, by contacts at DPW. Artery placement later. The most sensitive data are the details of camp layout, which are always hard to get, but there are ways to gather it. For all these, there connections that have gone quiet to revitalize.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Anyhow, I'd love to support this, if yourself and others are taking the drivers seat.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">-Mikel</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 13.63636302947998px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div></div><div> </div><div>* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron</div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:09 PM, Richard Weait <richard@weait.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div class="y_msg_container">On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Brad Neuhauser<br clear="none"><<a shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:brad.neuhauser@gmail.com" href="mailto:brad.neuhauser@gmail.com">brad.neuhauser@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> You might want to check out this thread from last year:<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-August/011641.html" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-August/011641.html</a><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Cheers, Brad<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM, robmorgan78 <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:robmorgan78@gmail.com" href="mailto:robmorgan78@gmail.com">robmorgan78@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Hello everyone, I am doing a project in my GIS class that involves working<br clear="none">>> with a shape file and exporting to a KML file. I have been going to<br clear="none">>> Burning<br
clear="none">>> Man for the past few years now and thought it would be interesting to work<br clear="none">>> with data from BM. I stumbled across this discussion and now instead of<br clear="none">>> one<br clear="none">>> question I have two...<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> First question, does anyone know where I can get shapefile data from past<br clear="none">>> Burning Man events?<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> My second question is, I am going to Burning Man this year (2014) and<br clear="none">>> would<br clear="none">>> be very interested in helping OSM with data collection. Who and what would<br clear="none">>> I<br clear="none">>> need to do to get involved in helping OSM with data collection at Burning<br clear="none">>> Man 2014?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Hi Robert,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Take Brad's advice and have a look at
the earlier part of this thread.<br clear="none"> We, OpenStreetMap contributors, love to have enthusiastic newcomers<br clear="none">join the project.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Your particular interest does intersect with some issues that you<br clear="none">should be aware of.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Firstly, OpenStreetMap is primarily for geographic information that is<br clear="none">permanent, verifiable and significant. Some might find the temporary<br clear="none">town for BM as not-permanent-enough. Others will disagree. :-)<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Secondly, OpenStreetMap data is supposed to be current, rather than<br clear="none">historical. There is a separate mailing list for those with an<br clear="none">interest in OpenStreetMap and historical objects. The two older<br clear="none">version of BM map are an exception in OpenStreetMap data, and<br clear="none">sometimes lead to confusion
on that matter.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Thirdly, acquiring a shape file to put some externally curated data<br clear="none">into OpenStreetMap is what we commonly refer to as an import. There<br clear="none">have been many past imports with poor results, even from experienced,<br clear="none">well intentioned contributors. So all prospective imports must follow<br clear="none">guidelines carefully, and with detailed community participation.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Now, I hope that the above information does not put you off<br clear="none">OpenStreetMap. I'm not sure what the timing is for BM this year and<br clear="none">if you'll have time to properly consult on an import.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Regarding a source of shapefile data, you can find shape files of<br clear="none">various portions of the OpenStreetMap data set at the Geofabrik<br clear="none">downloads server. <a shape="rect"
href="http://download.geofabrik.de/north-america.html" target="_blank">http://download.geofabrik.de/north-america.html </a>If<br clear="none">you were to chose the Nevada file, you might be able to get the<br clear="none">historic BM data from there.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">If you want to make the current burning man map data useful for<br clear="none">attendees this year, you might consider converting it, alone, without<br clear="none">any integration with OpenStreetMap data. if you were to convert it<br clear="none">for use on handheld GPSes, or pre-render it into tiles for a browser,<br clear="none">you could offer that as a download for other users before they head to<br clear="none">the desert. You might also have copies on SD card, or USB for them<br clear="none">you copy from you once you are on-site.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Have a great time.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Best regards anf happy mapping,<br
clear="none"><br clear="none">Richard<div class="yqt7900020486" id="yqtfd53418"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Talk-us mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org">Talk-us@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>