<div dir="ltr">Highway=service implies a private road, though; if a public road dead-ends at a single building or facility, it should be =residential or =unclassified, right?<div><br></div><div>The tracktype= key is also not really applicable to many of the unmaintained roads around here, at least as described on the wiki. The description implies that a track is a continuum from a maintained roadway to a virtually invisible path across a field. The unmaintained roads in this part of the country are usually old roadways that were established before modern engineering standards; many of them go up and down the fall line and have waterbars, washouts, rock ledges, or all of the above. For example:</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/1267970_716253801218_1989759584_o.jpg">https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/1267970_716253801218_1989759584_o.jpg</a><br>
</div><div><a href="https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/1266483_716253736348_406630391_o.jpg">https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/1266483_716253736348_406630391_o.jpg</a><br></div>
<div><a href="https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t31.0-8/1264969_716254075668_897288595_o.jpg">https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t31.0-8/1264969_716254075668_897288595_o.jpg</a><br>
</div><div><a href="https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10317804_767096626788_7562385056086790114_o.jpg">https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10317804_767096626788_7562385056086790114_o.jpg</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>All of these photos are unmaintained roads in Vermont. The last one is probably reasonable for a high-clearance, AWD car (e.g. Subaru) in the hands of a competent driver, and definitely should be passable by a skilled driver in a 4x4 pickup or Jeep. The other three would probably require a modified 4x4 and the right skillset. They are also legal right-of-ways, so clearly access=yes for all vehicle types (even though I wouldn't want to get routed down one of those unknowingly).</div>
<div><br></div><div>I've been using the smoothness key to provide additional data on such tracks, which I realize is a universally agreed solution, but it's the best one I've found to date; I'd be open to further suggestions.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com" target="_blank">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-07-03 17:36 GMT+02:00 Brad Neuhauser <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brad.neuhauser@gmail.com" target="_blank">brad.neuhauser@gmail.com</a>></span>:<div class="">
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Just trying to process this: wouldn't a tracktype 1 be tagged as unclassified or residential anyway? Or to ask a different way, assuming that roads with houses should be tagged as residential, when should one tag a sub-tertiary road as track vs. using unclassified?<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"></div></blockquote></div></div><br><br>You'd always tag it as unclassified, unless it is not a connection road and is used only for agricultural / forestry purposes. If it is not a connection road but used to access a certain building / facility, use service.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">E.g. this is clearly a track: <a href="http://binged.it/1odgrTZ" target="_blank">http://binged.it/1odgrTZ</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">or this: <a href="http://binged.it/1j0zEud" target="_blank">http://binged.it/1j0zEud</a><br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">in case of doubt I'd put unclassified ;-)<br><br>cheers,<br>Martin<br></div></div>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>
Talk-us mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org">Talk-us@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div>Kevin Broderick</div><div><a href="mailto:ktb@kevinbroderick.com" target="_blank">ktb@kevinbroderick.com</a></div></div>
</div>