<div dir="ltr"><div>I am wondering what can done to provide travelers planning information via OSM. You have to rely on local news while you are in a foreign area. How can a gated road be tagged so that travelers know to plan an alternate road or think about hotel reservations for the night? I am not happy with my Skunk Creek gates but at least they are there. More minuta below.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Greg</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Yep. You have take the northeast entrance of Yellowstone Park to get to Cooke City Montana on US 212 during the winter. <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/44.5018/-109.9734">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/44.5018/-109.9734</a></div><div><a href="http://www.dangerousroads.org/north-america/usa/810-beartooth-highway-usa.html">http://www.dangerousroads.org/north-america/usa/810-beartooth-highway-usa.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>There is the same issue with the east entrance of the Yellowstone Park. You have to hang out at Pahaska Tepee until the road clears. That's all the way into late May most years</div><div><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/44.5020/-109.9629">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/44.5020/-109.9629</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I marked the flood gates by Skunk Creek on West Dove Valley Road. I put them to the side of the road because a gate on the road implies the wrong message. The Arizona method of road construction is you scrape out a dirt road. The ground is hard enough that we can get away with it. Later on you throw some tar down when you have more money. More money means a cement plug through the river bed so that the road survives flooding. Pray and wait for the funding for a bridge.</div><div><br></div><div>I noted that Wyoming has all these snow gates outside of cities along I90 and other roads. There are plans to put up wind farms for California in some of these areas.</div><div><br></div><div>A week or so after first flood late August 2014</div><div><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/33.78419/-112.12596">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/33.78419/-112.12596</a><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tbHhMckFxbFV6MUE/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tbHhMckFxbFV6MUE/view</a><br></div><div><font color="#1155cc"><u><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tS2JtSHBSNnJNM0E/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tS2JtSHBSNnJNM0E/view</a></u></font><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tdFdXenZyRFVVT0U/view?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tdFdXenZyRFVVT0U/view</a><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tV0ZKVlN6SDlTY3c/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tV0ZKVlN6SDlTY3c/view</a><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tSTJ1MXZQVVNaemM/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tSTJ1MXZQVVNaemM/view</a><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tS2JtSHBSNnJNM0E/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tS2JtSHBSNnJNM0E/view</a><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tUDNScnJhdlJYTnc/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tUDNScnJhdlJYTnc/view</a><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tbFNNUlNaNy12SG8/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tbFNNUlNaNy12SG8/view</a><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tUDNScnJhdlJYTnc/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tUDNScnJhdlJYTnc/view</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>The next morning after the second flood second week September 2014</div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tSUhHczBibWRJYVE/view?usp=sharing" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/33.59086/-111.97704</a></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tSUhHczBibWRJYVE/view?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tSUhHczBibWRJYVE/view</a></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tS3hfT3p3U3VMS1k/view?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tS3hfT3p3U3VMS1k/view</a><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tTkhkbWE1UFgzcGs/view?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tTkhkbWE1UFgzcGs/view</a><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4telBqdlVRVDhtbVk/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4telBqdlVRVDhtbVk/view</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/33.58235/-111.98358">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/33.58235/-111.98358</a><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tZkliMmVOaExURzg/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tZkliMmVOaExURzg/view</a><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tTmRoYjVkZWN3R2s/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tTmRoYjVkZWN3R2s/view</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Wyoming snow gate somewhere west of Buffalo </div><div><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/44.3290/-106.7929">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/44.3290/-106.7929</a><br></div><div><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tRk5IUHJGb3p4ak0/view?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw7WBSr9fv4tRk5IUHJGb3p4ak0/view</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/08/01/snow_fences_how_do_they_work_what_are_they_where_did_they_come_from_photos.html">http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/08/01/snow_fences_how_do_they_work_what_are_they_where_did_they_come_from_photos.html</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><a href="http://www.usroads.com/journals/rej/9702/re970201.htm">http://www.usroads.com/journals/rej/9702/re970201.htm</a></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:02 PM, David Chiles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dwalterc@gmail.com" target="_blank">dwalterc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>I agree something like<br><br></div>access:conditional=no @ (winter)<br></div><div><br>access:conditional=no @ (Nov - Apr)<br><br><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions</a><div><div><br><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com" target="_blank">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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> Am 03.11.2014 um 16:03 schrieb Richard Weait <<a href="mailto:richard@weait.com" target="_blank">richard@weait.com</a>>:<br>
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</span>I think that this is not so nice tagging as it doesn't say anything about which season you'll be allowed to access. I would suggest conditional access, see the wiki for more info, it is something like access:conditional=no @ winter (I'm on mobile and didn't check this syntax)<br>
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